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Post by keggy on Dec 13, 2015 8:16:24 GMT
Great result brewers, even more of a surprise than winning at Wigan. Keep the unbeaten run going over the christmas fixtures and we will be flying!!! Come on the Blades today, you can fo it.
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Post by A38 on Dec 13, 2015 9:28:21 GMT
If Nasser has a bad attitude in any way cash in on him Even at this level he is very hot and cold At a bigger club he won't get shown the patience that he gets shown here He's not good enough to hold down a place at QPR IMO if that's in his or JFH's thoughts But we might get a good amount of money for him If he wants to stay then we need a good attitude This is a win/win situation- if he stays it's good If he goes cash in and it's good The big problem with this scenario is that one regular poster here will face a username crossroads - elkhayatiisjudas might not be far away! Recent avatar updates seem small beer in comparison!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 10:08:55 GMT
Agree, I was going to post that article. I think it was more down to Nasser having missed a few days of training (he went home on a scheduled break) so was subbed at 65 mins. It's good that he was upset at being subbed, goal-hungry. And he may also want to continue to show Jimmy what he has. Jimmy wasn't there and if Nasser is playing in order to show Jimmy how good he is, he would be doing it in the reserves if I were the boss. I want him to be showing us how good he is by working as part of a team.
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Post by brewersinramland on Dec 13, 2015 10:28:53 GMT
Agree, I was going to post that article. I think it was more down to Nasser having missed a few days of training (he went home on a scheduled break) so was subbed at 65 mins. It's good that he was upset at being subbed, goal-hungry. And he may also want to continue to show Jimmy what he has. Jimmy wasn't there and if Nasser is playing in order to show Jimmy how good he is, he would be doing it in the reserves if I were the boss. I want him to be showing us how good he is by working as part of a team. In comparison if you want an exciting player with the right attitude then huge praise to Bradley Dack on yesterday's performance. We tried to get Robbie on him from the start but for his age very impressive and kept trying even when 3 down. I suspect he'll be in the Championship before long.
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Post by bennyboy on Dec 13, 2015 10:56:02 GMT
Just watched the highlights, got to feel for Tom Naylor, he runs away for the celebration after his strike to make it 3, all the others run the other way to O'Connor, guess he got a final touch. Great result, shall be watching that Blades match today.
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Post by ashwilkinsonbm on Dec 13, 2015 11:40:29 GMT
On Nasser - he's a temperamental player but hey, aren't the best always that way? He's an emotional player and lets that show in his play. It's why he's exuberant in his celebrations, it's why he's hacked off when he gets brought off. He never reacts well to substitutions either, that's nothing new. He got brought off in the 93rd minute against Millwall, purely to waste a bit of time, and got annoyed. Head down, trudging off, not looking anyone in the eye as he took his seat. Effectively, he didn't react well to being brought off by Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and David Oldfield - this is nothing new to Clough, Garner and Crosby. In any case, from what I could see, Hornby and Ward were having major input in yesterday's game from the touchline, and I saw them more than Garner. Crosby was watching from the stands. That bodes well. The players and staff will deal with that because, after all, Nasser is the Brewers' top scorer and is capable of those moments of genius.
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Post by NobodyGood on Dec 13, 2015 11:47:43 GMT
He's always been a little temperamental. I wasn't there yesterday so can't really comment.
But I'd quite like him to stay.... Otherwise I'll have to change my name!
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Post by riverman on Dec 13, 2015 11:58:07 GMT
Nasser reminds me a lot of Jacques Maghoma. Brilliant skills, sometimes wayward and appearing lazy. I would have kept Jacques if we could as the positives far outweighed the negatives and hopefully Nige will hang on to Nasser - unless he gets too stroppy of course ☺.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 12:52:58 GMT
I love Nasser but I think he's got a fair bit to do yet to the standard required for a club chasing promotion to the top tier. I agree with Riverman's comparison of him with Maghoma but I think that Jacques became a much better player over the 4 years he spent with us because, with the right coaching, the penny dropped and once he learned to control his stroppiness and arrogance (and the tendency to respond to criticism with a new hair do) and put it all out on the pitch the real talent came to the front and he was simply unplayable every week instead of in dribs and drabs. With Nasser you haven't got the bad attitude but a temper and a little bit of unintended insolence. Channel that in the right direction and there's no reason that he can't go all the way to the top.
As for the game itself I've just seen the highlights. I noticed that just before Loft got sent off Beavon was getting fouled by a centre half for the 489th time this season and that went unpunished but in the grand scheme of things it worked out in our favour. Stupidity on the part of Loft to react in the way he did went on a yellow card. Deserves everything he gets. As for Gillingham and all their gripes about the referee and our supposed "cheating" yesterday I've read about (read some of the message boards including the one Norah posted the link to. There's even a suggestion that the 4th official was helping us)...if I had a pound for everytime "the pub team" has been shafted by a bigger club getting the big decisions or seen opposition players chucking themselves about then I'd be buying my relatives half decent presents this year instead of the shite I can normally barely afford.
Ain't it funny how a club's supporters can be respectful until you threaten their spot or beat them.
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Post by Norah on Dec 13, 2015 13:14:38 GMT
Right time to admit something.. i thought O conner's goal was scored by Tom Naylor.. so did the people around us; so much so that when he went towards our fans with his hands raised and then stood there all by himself for a few seconds we really felt sorry for him as all of the team start celebrating about ten feet away from him and totally ignored him. I notice that the goal is now credited to O Connor but if you look at the link for this blog then you will see that others on the day thought that it was Naylor's goal too.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=huHc2pF0axw&app=desktop
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Post by bennyboy on Dec 13, 2015 13:33:59 GMT
^^^ The way O'Connor turns to celebrate seems he got the last touch, unclear on the highlights. As I said earlier, Naylor looked like Billy no mates celebrating on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 13:50:00 GMT
Agree, I was going to post that article. I think it was more down to Nasser having missed a few days of training (he went home on a scheduled break) so was subbed at 65 mins. It's good that he was upset at being subbed, goal-hungry. And he may also want to continue to show Jimmy what he has. Jimmy wasn't there and if Nasser is playing in order to show Jimmy how good he is, he would be doing it in the reserves if I were the boss. I want him to be showing us how good he is by working as part of a team. Well, I certainly don't know what his intentions are, but I made a couple of valid points about perhaps being subbed due to his missing training and being upset at being subbed because he might be goal-hungry. Isn't it ironic that some people just look for an off the cuff comment as an opportunity to have a dig and that others also like that dig.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 13:57:07 GMT
On Nasser - he's a temperamental player but hey, aren't the best always that way? He's an emotional player and lets that show in his play. It's why he's exuberant in his celebrations, it's why he's hacked off when he gets brought off. He never reacts well to substitutions either, that's nothing new. He got brought off in the 93rd minute against Millwall, purely to waste a bit of time, and got annoyed. Head down, trudging off, not looking anyone in the eye as he took his seat. Effectively, he didn't react well to being brought off by Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and David Oldfield - this is nothing new to Clough, Garner and Crosby. In any case, from what I could see, Hornby and Ward were having major input in yesterday's game from the touchline, and I saw them more than Garner. Crosby was watching from the stands. That bodes well. The players and staff will deal with that because, after all, Nasser is the Brewers' top scorer and is capable of those moments of genius. re: Nasser being subbed. That's exactly how I would want and expect any player to react. Unless injured they shouldn't be happy to be subbed, they might accept the managers decision but don't see why they should be happy. And people react, and show their reactions, differently. Listening on the radio it was clear that Ward at least had a bit of of input with the players, sounded like Garner was dealing with referees decisions. Norah, the announcers called Ant for the goal at the time.
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Post by NobodyGood on Dec 13, 2015 13:58:38 GMT
I think when he doesn't score he's upset with himself. Not a bad trait. Also, good result for us as Cov dropped 3 points 5 points clear of play offs regardless of Walsalls game in hand. Massive.
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Post by johnno on Dec 13, 2015 14:04:57 GMT
Agreed Peacock.
Let's stop making a mountain out of a molehill. Nasser's a bit temperamental but all creative types have a bit of that, otherwise they would be mediocre, so we have to manage it a little. Or should I say Nigel will have to.
Nasser probably needs a small word or two from someone like Moose, to just calm it a bit and keep on producing the magic on the pitch.
He's the type of player who only needs to be at his best for ten minutes of a game to completely destroy a team and occasionally you have to put up with a bit of an off day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 14:16:08 GMT
On Nasser - he's a temperamental player but hey, aren't the best always that way? He's an emotional player and lets that show in his play. It's why he's exuberant in his celebrations, it's why he's hacked off when he gets brought off. He never reacts well to substitutions either, that's nothing new. He got brought off in the 93rd minute against Millwall, purely to waste a bit of time, and got annoyed. Head down, trudging off, not looking anyone in the eye as he took his seat. Effectively, he didn't react well to being brought off by Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and David Oldfield - this is nothing new to Clough, Garner and Crosby. In any case, from what I could see, Hornby and Ward were having major input in yesterday's game from the touchline, and I saw them more than Garner. Crosby was watching from the stands. That bodes well. The players and staff will deal with that because, after all, Nasser is the Brewers' top scorer and is capable of those moments of genius. re: Nasser being subbed. That's exactly how I would want and expect any player to react. Unless injured they shouldn't be happy to be subbed, they might accept the managers decision but don't see why they should be happy. And people react, and show their reactions, differently. Listening on the radio it was clear that Ward at least had a bit of of input with the players, sounded like Garner was dealing with referees decisions. Norah, the announcers called Ant for the goal at the time. Well I agree with that too, just don't agree with players trying to impress formers managers, as was the suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 14:35:13 GMT
Jimmy wasn't there and if Nasser is playing in order to show Jimmy how good he is, he would be doing it in the reserves if I were the boss. I want him to be showing us how good he is by working as part of a team. Well, I certainly don't know what his intentions are, but I made a couple of valid points about perhaps being subbed due to his missing training and being upset at being subbed because he might be goal-hungry. Isn't it ironic that some people just look for an off the cuff comment as an opportunity to have a dig and that others also like that dig. No just a different way of looking at things, embrace a differing opinion ?
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Post by claymillman on Dec 13, 2015 14:52:26 GMT
A great result yesterday, making the journey and awful facilities worth while. Regarding Nasser. It wasn't his day yesterday, they made sure he had no space to work in with two on him immediately. He did have more promise when he was switched to the right for the latter part of the first half. I also think he missed his training. Next game he could be superb. He just needs to forget yesterday, and get ready for the next game. Bevs and Duffy were both superb, and frankly the whole team can feel proud of their performances. Just to add to the result, Sheffield have beaten Coventry, so are still 5 points adrift without a game in hand.
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Post by brewersinramland on Dec 13, 2015 17:38:45 GMT
Welcome back home Andy Garner - just lovely to hear him talk with such enthusiasm on the BBC website. I never doubted how much it matters to the three of them, but heart and soul with no small measure of expertise is a certainty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2015 17:54:56 GMT
Welcome back home Andy Garner - just lovely to hear him talk with such enthusiasm on the BBC website. I never doubted how much it matters to the three of them, but heart and soul with no small measure of expertise is a certainty. "He's got no hair, but we don't care, Andy, Andy Garner!!!"
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