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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 25, 2024 19:52:33 GMT
I could actually say we've got 10 who can play there but this is my list:
Vercooten Moon Sweeney Bajrami Sraha Godwin-Malife Bannon Delap Tamen Williams
- Godwin-Malife will likely play right back but has played centre half a lot in his career, Bannon played centre half pretty much last season for Queens Park but can play in a few positions. Williams has also played on the left of a back three although is more well known as a left wing back.
I expect Moon will go, and that Delap and Tamen will go out on loan, which makes the numbers look a little more respectable, with Godwin & Williams classed as more RB/LB then it lowers the centre half choice down to five, which is much better and realistic.
Personally I don't want us to play three/five at the back as it's been an absolute nightmare for us in the last three or so seasons, but I agree that with some of the signings made its looking possible. Robinson has tended to favour four at the back (4-3-3) and I really hope we go with that, but who knows... I can see us playing a few different styles and not just sticking with one even if it doesn't work.
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Post by mikeyboy on Jul 25, 2024 20:12:59 GMT
£500k up front according to the Stevenage Forum.
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Post by cbh1 on Jul 25, 2024 20:21:50 GMT
I dont have a problem with three at the back. Its about the personnel to play it and needing pace in the wingback positions. Almost need wingers who can defend. Last season it was mostly Hamer and Seddon who were, largely, ok defensively. Too many people got too hung up on slating the 3/5 at the back last season. We won at Bristol Rovers and Leyton Orient playing 3/5 at the back.
This season we appear to have the personnel to play both 4 at the back and three centre backs as well and to be able to switch, in game, between the two depending on the personnel playing.
As for the outlay on players, we dont know what it is but I know there was a lot of talk about Orsi and how much he must have cost. Someone told me at the welcome event that he had been talking to a couple of fans and said that he had a five-figure release clause that we triggered to get him a lot cheaper than you would expect to get a 20 goal League Two striker for.
Accounting wise we can spread the cost of the fees over the course of their three-year contracts. (Four in the case of whatever the Bannon fee was) so I am sure there would have been a cash budget set at the outset for what they wanted to invest this summer to get their targets.
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Post by annable on Jul 26, 2024 7:51:26 GMT
There seems to be some concern amongst our fan base about how much we are paying for this, that and the other player, how much we are receiving for players sold such as Hamer and Helm but the reality is that we are now in a completely different world under the NFG ownership who will have come in with their own budget and pot of cash which is chalk and cheese compared to the way things were run under Ben Robinson. I have no problem with that and personally think it's great that this consortium, who let's not forget didn't just come together overnight, have decided on us to invest their millions. Clearly we have to be sustainable and future player sales are likely to be a feature in that but for now I am happy to watch what is unfolding and not worry about the future of the club being on the line because we are spending a few quid.
Yesterdays signing looks a good one on paper. Experienced L1 performer with a team that finished way above us and for us to attract somebody from a higher team in the division, albeit a similar size of club, must mean we are making it worthwhile for the player(money talks at the end of day) and he has has bought into the new owners plans for the club. Big fee by our former owner standards but probably a drop in the ocean for the new ones. Bring it on I say and lets hope for a couple more in this quality bracket and I think we can really start to get excited.
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Post by bancroft on Jul 26, 2024 9:52:39 GMT
I think you are right annable
the plan is probably that we have to spend a lot now, which might put us at risk of breaching some of the wage caps, fair play stuff. but in giving out 3 year contracts that gives us a time window to work with.
i.e we've spent too much this year. but if we get promoted, that doesn't matter as Championship TV money covers the deficit
or if we turn one of these £50k ish signings into someone who is sold for £1m then it also doesn't matter (the Brentford model)
could be exciting times
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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 26, 2024 10:28:51 GMT
The worst case scenario is that it doesn't work and we go down, then the shit would truly hit the fan.
Ideally we have a solid mid table finish and a cup run or two to make a few quid.
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Post by cbh1 on Jul 26, 2024 10:44:34 GMT
I think you are right annable the plan is probably that we have to spend a lot now, which might put us at risk of breaching some of the wage caps, fair play stuff. but in giving out 3 year contracts that gives us a time window to work with. i.e we've spent too much this year. but if we get promoted, that doesn't matter as Championship TV money covers the deficit or if we turn one of these £50k ish signings into someone who is sold for £1m then it also doesn't matter (the Brentford model) could be exciting times I may be wrong but I think the owners can put in money to boost the turnover in order to make sure we don’t breach the wage cap percentage but it has to be a permanent investment and not just returnable loans on the balance sheet. Think it’s slightly more complex than that and I think unforeseen gains eg cup money or incoming transfer fees are included at 100% in the turnover. Forecasts have to go in pretty early on and are monitored so clubs and EFL should be on top of this throughout the season.
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Post by bancroft on Jul 26, 2024 12:56:28 GMT
agree, definitely complicated. I tried to read the EFL booklet on it, but it's massive! full of jargon
big statement though from the new owners. they've bought the club (how much for doesn't matter to anyone apart from Ben Robinson, and however much it was, hopefully loads, he fully deserves it)
now they've put in what looks like quite a lot of cash to sort out the playing side
off the field activities seem to be happening too
they are really trying hard to set us up to win and get promoted and progress.
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Post by cbh1 on Jul 26, 2024 13:17:28 GMT
agree, definitely complicated. I tried to read the EFL booklet on it, but it's massive! full of jargon big statement though from the new owners. they've bought the club (how much for doesn't matter to anyone apart from Ben Robinson, and however much it was, hopefully loads, he fully deserves it) now they've put in what looks like quite a lot of cash to sort out the playing side off the field activities seem to be happening too they are really trying hard to set us up to win and get promoted and progress. I think, ultimately, promotion will be a target but I was in a meeting with Tom Davidson a couple of nights ago and they acknowledge that, playing wise, this season is pretty much a complete reset so they know that expectations need to be kept realistic as League one is incredibly competitive this season.
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Post by luke on Jul 27, 2024 19:08:53 GMT
Harry Isted signed, goalkeeper, undisclosed terms as per Charlton website
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Post by strettonbrewer on Aug 4, 2024 20:34:55 GMT
Thought we'd have seen some more action on the transfer front this week.
Still think I'd ship out Moon and Bennett with loans for some youngsters.
Still think we need another ST, Defensive midfielder and pacey Winger.
Thought Harper would've been brilliant under Robbo and still hope he can be but not looking likely!
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Post by mikeyboy on Aug 4, 2024 20:36:56 GMT
1 more to come in this week according to Robbo yesterday.
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Post by Fred Andrews on Aug 4, 2024 20:48:55 GMT
I do hope we ship a couple out but maybe that will be delayed because of the number of injuries we've currently got. Obviously once everyone is fit we'd have 33 players on the books (if we include the 3 new academy players). I wouldn't want us being too bloated.
I suspect if any lads do go it'll be Harper, Moon & Bennett, plus four or five of the younger lads out on loan.
I do think we could do with a couple more faces however, maybe an attacking/forward thinking midfielder, and a winger.
One thing I've noticed is that despite being technically better in terms of footballers, our midfield is lacking size & presence, they're all a bit small, but if they play like Barcelona that won't really matter!
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Post by strettonbrewer on Aug 4, 2024 21:05:30 GMT
1 more to come in this week according to Robbo yesterday. Where's this from?
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Post by craig1 on Aug 4, 2024 21:13:48 GMT
Thought we'd have seen some more action on the transfer front this week. Still think I'd ship out Moon and Bennett with loans for some youngsters. Still think we need another ST, Defensive midfielder and pacey Winger. Thought Harper would've been brilliant under Robbo and still hope he can be but not looking likely! I thought the same regarding Harper. Watched the game v Vale and we looked great going forward but against better L1 sides they will pick us off in some situations. I just thought someone like Harper would give the midfield some strength, and he’s a decent player if given the opportunity!
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Post by mikeyboy on Aug 4, 2024 21:22:09 GMT
1 more to come in this week according to Robbo yesterday. Where's this from? Part of his post match interview yesterday.
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Post by superbrewer on Aug 4, 2024 21:36:37 GMT
Part of his post match interview yesterday.
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Post by superbrewer on Aug 4, 2024 21:38:20 GMT
Part of his post match interview yesterday. He mentioned it to Dave Fletcher on Radio Derby.
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Post by strettonbrewer on Aug 5, 2024 9:12:22 GMT
If there's to be one more I'd like to think it's either a Winger or CDM to go alongside Watt
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Post by luke on Aug 5, 2024 9:40:07 GMT
I do hope we ship a couple out but maybe that will be delayed because of the number of injuries we've currently got. Obviously once everyone is fit we'd have 33 players on the books (if we include the 3 new academy players). I wouldn't want us being too bloated. I suspect if any lads do go it'll be Harper, Moon & Bennett, plus four or five of the younger lads out on loan. I do think we could do with a couple more faces however, maybe an attacking/forward thinking midfielder, and a winger. One thing I've noticed is that despite being technically better in terms of footballers, our midfield is lacking size & presence, they're all a bit small, but if they play like Barcelona that won't really matter! Also the squad registration to think about as well, last time I counted (excluding U21s and GKs) we were right on the limit I think
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