luke
Youth Team
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Post by luke on Apr 6, 2024 18:05:03 GMT
Says it all when some on the popside shouted well done and applauded Josh Murphy as he came over to us having been subbed. Why not, he had a great game and scored. Poor lad didn't know how to react, he appreciated though. Did one of the signs fall down on Popside today as well? Quite fitting really if so
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Post by sinfinbovril on Apr 6, 2024 18:06:04 GMT
Says it all when some on the popside shouted well done and applauded Josh Murphy as he came over to us having been subbed. Why not, he had a great game and scored. Poor lad didn't know how to react, he appreciated though. Beautiful moment when Mark Helm got subbed. He got a lovely round of applause from the West and Main stands - he looked embarrassed.
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Post by rhys0204 on Apr 6, 2024 18:06:45 GMT
Whether Ben sacks Paterson tonight, at the end of the season, or in six months, I think he needs to very strongly consider appointing a Director of Football-style figure, to oversee the sporting side of the business. The last few major decisions he's had to make have all been off. He's a shrewd businessman, who is clearly switched on, but I really think it'd be wise to just let Ben focus on the bread and butter of business.
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Post by sinfinbovril on Apr 6, 2024 18:07:37 GMT
Great, thrilling Martin Paterson interview today! (sarcasm) But seriously, blaming the fans for a poor home atmosphere and saying that now the players are 'scared' to play at home. What a **** day... I bet they're more scared when they see 5 defenders' names on the teamsheet...
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Post by rhys0204 on Apr 6, 2024 18:07:48 GMT
Says it all when some on the popside shouted well done and applauded Josh Murphy as he came over to us having been subbed. Why not, he had a great game and scored. Poor lad didn't know how to react, he appreciated though. He tore us a new one today. If he's like that regularly, he'll be back in the Championship next year.
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Post by dcpedigree on Apr 6, 2024 19:53:58 GMT
Chairman needs to sell the club,to someone who is interested. Sorry but the decisions from the top have made this situation! You reap what you sow and the last few seasons have been woeful,as for today what do you expect with kids up front,lack of know how,it was always going to be a hard road. I did clap the team off but those behind the scenes should be gone soon,the manager and the useless coaching staff. Give it to brayford and gilroy they can’t do any worse,than the current incompetents. Burton Albion used to be such a proud club,it’s on its knees today! It really makes me so angry when people say sell the club to someone who is more interested. We are a club with a core fan base of 2500 at the most. Even when we were in the championship it didn’t get any bigger. We are not an attractive club for anyone to buy. Only a fan with money to throw away would keep us in league one or beyond. We really have to wake up and admit we had a great run. The stars were aligned when Clough left for the first time and the recruitment of managers and players worked. But I feel it was pure luck that it all fell into place. Us oldies know where we really should be in the football pyramid. Let’s not kid ourselves unfortunately the stars are not aligned anymore. But more importantly we have a Chairman that has, and will make sure we have a club for the future.
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Post by craig1 on Apr 6, 2024 20:26:55 GMT
What a complete mess…. Trying to get my head around what’s gone wrong .
Don’t think it helps when MP doesn’t know his best side at this stage, which includes making the changes needed regarding subs. In our situation the manager should know his strongest team rather than keep chopping and changing every week and leaving players out who have done well.
Having watched Harper play recently including away at Portsmouth I can’t understand why he’s not starting games. I’m all for creating goal scoring opportunities but the team needs balance which Imo just wasn’t there yet again from the off today.
I personally don’t think having both Powell and Helm on together works as neither can break up the play and teams as Oxford did just play round them. I rate both players but for the team balance it doesn’t work if we want to pick much needed points up.
Bringing Scott on in our current situation? Come on…. The confidence throughout the squad is very low and we tend to sit back which makes matters worse.
Listening to the interviews after the game on Radio Derby MP believes he’s doing the right thing and I can’t see him walking away. Dave Fletcher was very honest with his views and I tend to agree with his take on things. Have we got enough games left even if Ben decides to make the change? I’m thinking it’s worth a go and possibly Mills & Brayford or Gilroy, or anybody who can put a decent well balanced team out with players playing in positions that suit them and the team.
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Post by stapenhill1953 on Apr 6, 2024 20:28:17 GMT
Just when you thought it surely couldn’t get any worse performance wise it DID!! That was a woeful performance of epic proportions even more so because it was a game that we needed to get something from! Manager simply not good enough tactically and a large number of the squad not good enough for this division. The anti-football has been served up for far too long - our only tactic seems to be the hoof to a young lad who has not got the physical attributes to be a lone striker - I nearly forgot . . and the long throw - absolute joke! All this has been mentioned by numerous people on this thread! I would like to concentrate my criticism on our Chairman. I acknowledge of course all he has done for our football club but he has to shoulder a large proportion of the blame for not only this season but really since we dropped out of the Championship. I know we have been punching above are weight and we haven’t got the resources to compete at the highest level in this league however Ben has been ultimately responsible for choosing the managers and signing off outgoings and incomings! Given our situation in January he brought in an inexperienced manager when we all knew we needed someone with experience! Previous January windows actually saved us this one was a complete and utter disaster! Our main issues for a number of seasons have been lack of goals and creativity in mid-field and once again we have failed to address these issues! No matter what happens this season a serious review needs to take place - we cannot carry on like this! We are loosing supporters not just because of the results but because the football has been absolutely turgid!!!
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Post by bornandbrewed on Apr 6, 2024 20:29:37 GMT
Chairman needs to sell the club,to someone who is interested. Sorry but the decisions from the top have made this situation! You reap what you sow and the last few seasons have been woeful,as for today what do you expect with kids up front,lack of know how,it was always going to be a hard road. I did clap the team off but those behind the scenes should be gone soon,the manager and the useless coaching staff. Give it to brayford and gilroy they can’t do any worse,than the current incompetents. Burton Albion used to be such a proud club,it’s on its knees today! I did notice one Shaun Barker sat with the (non playing) members of the squad behind the dug out. With Brayford and Gilroy supporting I don’t know if it could be any worse. Would be an interesting appointment. Bumped into Shaun a few times over the years at games... a thoroughly nice bloke who seems very switched on regarding all things football!
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Post by britty on Apr 6, 2024 20:41:21 GMT
I have been (mostly) sympathetic to the situation MP has been dealt coming to the club, but after today even I am struggling to see anything other than someone who is out of his depth here. Ben Robinson took a big gamble and it has spectacularly failed.
I've said before that MP needs to get Harper, Kamwa and Carayol on the pitch and the last 15 minutes today showed why. Yes Oxford were going through the motions but we at least managed to get forward and create a bit. Harper controlled the ball and Kamwa and Carayol were direct and spread the play.
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Post by popsidepete59 on Apr 6, 2024 20:46:52 GMT
During MP's after match interview he mentioned, I don't coach the players, I don't tell them what to do, so WTF do you show and tell them? Glad I wasn't hearing things Bennyboy, I thought I'd misheard that comment, makes you wonder what MP is doing, and what Mills and Dreyer are doing? They're perhaps all having an input, and that's why the team look confused? May as well promoted Shaun Barker and Keith Gilroy when Dino went, although I've not seen them play apparently Shaun and Keith's youngsters try to play football?
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Post by mikeyboy on Apr 7, 2024 7:22:00 GMT
I deliberately didn’t comment yesterday as I wanted to sleep on it and gather my thoughts first, as I felt we were witnessing something very different against Oxford. In my view we were seeing players who had given up the ghost, had a whiff of defiance towards the manager and were really trying to say to the powers that be ‘This isn’t working and I don’t want to be part of this anymore’. We had players like Hughes, Sweeney, Crocombe and Hamer who just didn’t want to compete, particularly after we’d gone 1 down and I have hardly ever witnessed that before at Burton Albion in nearly 60 years of watching. I have supported Martin so far and I certainly don’t agree with booing and negative chanting about how bad we are but I do think that it’s now time for Ben to get an arm around Martin and say that sadly it hasn’t worked and we need to bring someone experienced in for the final 4 games as a last throw of the dice. And in my view, I hadn't even thought about it until Ilson’s post of yesterday evening that ought to be John Coleman. He would come too and be here to lead things Monday morning.
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Post by bartonyellow on Apr 7, 2024 7:33:31 GMT
I deliberately didn’t comment yesterday as I wanted to sleep on it and gather my thoughts first, as I felt we were witnessing something very different against Oxford. In my view we were seeing players who had given up the ghost, had a whiff of defiance towards the manager and were really trying to say to the powers that be ‘This isn’t working and I don’t want to be part of this anymore’. We had players like Hughes, Sweeney, Crocombe and Hamer who just didn’t want to compete, particularly after we’d gone 1 down and I have hardly ever witnessed that before at Burton Albion in nearly 60 years of watching. I have supported Martin so far and I certainly don’t agree with booing and negative chanting about how bad we are but I do think that it’s now time for Ben to get an arm around Martin and say that sadly it hasn’t worked and we need to bring someone experienced in for the final 4 games as a last throw of the dice. And in my view, I hadn't even thought about it until Ilson’s post of yesterday evening that ought to be John Coleman. He would come too and be here to lead things Monday morning. Coleman would be a great appointment.
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Post by insideleft on Apr 7, 2024 8:14:38 GMT
Yesterday I was watching the worst team I have seen in a Burton Albion shirt.
I don't remotely blame MP for that.
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Post by bennyboy on Apr 7, 2024 8:31:46 GMT
Colin Gibson (not a favourite of mine on the radio) asked MP post match if it would favourable if he stepped aside for the remainder of the season, basically let someone else steer the ship. Obviously MPs response was he'd never give in, he not that type of person, he wants to put things right.
Well my thoughts are he should as above, I would love a turn around a win maybe but I don't think that will happen now. Also blaming the home crowd atmosphere isn't helping, I think more fans will now get on his back. BTW I didn't boo, I only ever booed, just the once (sorry) when he brought Deji on last home match. Not the player but the decision to bring him on as a replacement striker or whatever.
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Post by Fred Andrews on Apr 7, 2024 8:47:57 GMT
Coleman would be a great appointment. Did wonders with Accrington on a smaller budget than even we had.
Paterson needs to go.
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Post by staffbrewer1950 on Apr 7, 2024 8:49:53 GMT
I come away from games thinking,it can't get any worse but yesterday's performance takes the biscuit,we made Oxford look like world beaters.I still believe we have the players to get us out of this mess and we have four winnable games left.Do we have the right man in charge to achieve this, unfortunately,i don't think we do.Ben's made some terrible decisions on appointing recent managers,i would guess,on the cheap.The sword lands on his head.
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Post by mikeyboy on Apr 7, 2024 8:54:46 GMT
I was a bit shocked by what Martin said frankly. The team was clapped and cheered onto the pitch and was noisily supported around me. As each substitute warmed up, they were applauded and enthusiastically received. Yes after taking just 2 points out of 30 and 7 consecutive defeats at the Pirelli, people are nervous and want to see a different result plus some decent football. But I’d have said the team were incredibly well supported given their current form, better than most I would say.
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Post by Fred Andrews on Apr 7, 2024 9:06:50 GMT
Worryingly, even though we'll have in theory a new manager and vastly different squad next season, you'd have to say with our current setup that we would be down the bottom end of League Two right now. In a relegation scrap who knows but certainly down in that mix.
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Post by mikeyboy on Apr 7, 2024 9:14:24 GMT
Worryingly, even though we'll have in theory a new manager and vastly different squad next season, you'd have to say with our current setup that we would be down the bottom end of League Two right now. In a relegation scrap who knows but certainly down in that mix. That’s what Dave Fletcher was saying on Radio Derby and also how difficult it has been for other, bigger clubs to get back after losing their league status, York City, Scunthorpe United, Oldham, Halifax etc. The daft thing is we were sitting higher than Derby in October. What has happened is totally self inflicted and unnecessary.
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