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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 0:04:26 GMT
QPR fans ought to get behind JFH. The QPR board need to give him time to turn this around - their policy of constantly changing managers in recent years hasn't proved to be very successful. JFH showed in his time here he's potentially a top future manager. He just needs to get one win under his belt and I'm sure plenty more will follow. (A bit like a tomato sauce bottle, if you like)! I'm glad I support a sensibly run, stable club that lets the manager manage and doesn't think it's got an automatic divine right to play in a higher league. Hear, Hear! The man has been there a month! He hasn't even put his mark on the the club yet, this transfer window may allow him to do that? I'm not not really surprised that the QPR whingers are out in force, but I am a bit dismayed at some of our supporters on this and other forums who seem to need to point out Jimmys misfortunes at the moment. I know, I know, you're only pointing out the facts. But why? Why not talk about the FA cups games vs Man U ten years ago?  Jimmy worked wonders with our club, we had lost 5 of 9 when he came in, he made two important changes to the squad and turned things around! He won the league for us with a record number of points, he achieved the best record in 2015 of all Football League clubs. He signed a 8-9 decent players to start L1 and left us at the top of the league. As some have suggested he may not be in total charge of what happens at QPR, that others are pulling the strings? So why not point fingers at them? I obviously don't know, but I think that given the time, a bit of money and the ability to build his team he can do there what he did here. Ie: build a team of existing and new players who are fit, who play for each other, and who are successful. Will QPR win the Championship, probably not this year but give the man a chance. I dislike the "we had lost 5 of 9" bit, it almost implies we were rubbish before and he rescued us, the 5/9 may be factually correct, but it includes a JPT, BSC and a FA Cup defeat with a bizarre team selection from Whitlow. In context we had the best ever start to a season we had ever had and were third in the table when he took over. The squad he inherited was a very good one, he did make a few key decisions and brought in a few very good players. He also galvanised a very good team in an unprecedented way (at Burton). He also signed some duffers to be fair. What he and Rowett achieved last season was remarkable, we are forever in their debt. His start to this season was even more remarkable, in the context of being in a higher division. I take no pleasure in his troubles at QPR, I do though feel a bit let down by his departure. But he didn't take a struggling/under achieving team and 'work wonders', that is what he needs to do at QPR. I hope he is given the time to do it, because I think he will. |
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Post by observer on Jan 11, 2016 0:56:17 GMT
As the QPR fans have commented
The job he faces at QPR is chalk and cheese to the one he faced with us
And many don't think he has the nous to deal with it at this stage of his career
Warnock winning 2 in a row before JFH got the job and putting them just outside playoffs hasn't helped of course
Let's not treat this as a JFH thread but more like a "when you manage Burton truly appreciate what a great job it actually is" thread
Having said that if JFH sorts QPR out he well and truly is a genius long term rather than short term that's for sure
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Post by observer on Jan 11, 2016 0:58:16 GMT
The reason I think we went off the boil with Rowett slightly was his head being turned towards end of his time with us
In fairness to JFH that didn't happen with him
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 10:00:20 GMT
Let's not treat this as a JFH thread ?? But that is what is is/was! The thread title is Thank You Jimmy Floyd!! Another thread perhaps should have been started to highlight the problems QPR are in. |
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Post by woody on Jan 11, 2016 10:17:18 GMT
Achievements documented. Thanks and best wishes given. Time to move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 22:35:34 GMT
Achievements documented. Thanks and best wishes given. Time to move on. Does that rule apply to all ex-managers? |
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Post by mikeyboy on Jan 12, 2016 12:31:30 GMT
Achievements documented. Thanks and best wishes given. Time to move on. Does that rule apply to all ex-managers? It should do Nigel Clough is our manager now and we are extremely fortunate to get someone as high profile and experienced with nearly 20 years in management. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 15:07:35 GMT
When Jimmy was manager people used to rave about Nigel and Gaz and how thay had built the club and improved the club....
What has changed?
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Post by observer on Jan 12, 2016 17:17:50 GMT
When Jimmy was manager people used to rave about Nigel and Gaz and how thay had built the club and improved the club.... What has changed? JFH did an incredible job in his short time with us But he inherited a great set up Others before him produced that - including Ben significantly He"s inherited an awful set up at QPR - you now wonder if he is qualified to do the job in front of him there as it's totally different to this one Rowett and Nigel probably both more qualified for the QPR job as they didn't inherit great situations. They created them. Different jobs don't you think Peacock? If he's on a rolling one year contract then that doesn't fit with what's needed to be done at QPR IMO |
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Post by claymillman on Jan 12, 2016 18:06:23 GMT
I agree with the general trend by Observer above. In addition I would add that we didn't run a dedicated thread that Peacock seems to want to continue add infinitum. I will always be grateful to JFH, and not be afraid to mention this in the future when appropriate. It is time to look forward and use history for occasional reference, not continual worship. I will not respond to any further comments on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 18:06:46 GMT
When Jimmy was manager people used to rave about Nigel and Gaz and how thay had built the club and improved the club.... What has changed? JFH did an incredible job in his short time with us But he inherited a great set up Others before him produced that - including Ben significantly He"s inherited an awful set up at QPR - you now wonder if he is qualified to do the job in front of him there as it's totally different to this one Rowett and Nigel probably both more qualified for the QPR job as they didn't inherit great situations. They created them. Different jobs don't you think Peacock? If he's on a rolling one year contract then that doesn't fit with what's needed to be done at QPR IMO Gaz started his full managerial career at the beginning of the 2012-13 season, and Jimmy at the biginning of 2013-14, so no I don't agree with the more experience statement. Rowett was our manager for two seasons plus 2.5 months and took us to Wembley. Jimmy was our manager for one season plus one month and won L2 outright with 94 points breaking a few records along the way. Nigel did well with the funds and resourses he had over 10 years to get us into the League (I think he deserves that credit despite leaving before the job was done). Gaz did a great job building the squad. I think Jimmy did a better job managing that squad and went on to create a much better squad which Nigel has inherited.If he continues to succeed will you say he inherited a great setup? I certainly hope so. Gaz left fairly quickly for a better opportunity, Jimmy did the same. Whether Jimmy is or qualified to manager QPR cannot be answered in one month. He needs time to make his changes, create his team and put his stamp on the club. I hope those in charge of player movement and the finances allow him to do that. EDIT: just saw this so not sure he will be allowed to (they are obviously looking for income)... Steven Caulker: Liverpool sign QPR defender on loan.... Gaz and Nigel would be in the same position if they were there so to imply things would be better is not factual enough for me. But, you missed my question (which was to mikeyboy btw). People raved about Nigel and Gaz when Jimmy was manager, what has changed that says people cannot rave about the job Jimmy did now he has left? Edited for woodys correction. that was bit silly of me. |
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Post by woody on Jan 12, 2016 18:24:35 GMT
I was hoping this thread had been put to bed. Clearly not. My memory may be poor but I do not remember threads constantly raving about Clough or Rowett when they departed. What I am sure about is that GR managed the club for two full seasons during which he took the club to the playoffs. Of course, I am interested in previous players and managers but constant repetitive comparisons serve no purpose and frankly become very boring.
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Post by keggy on Jan 12, 2016 18:48:49 GMT
Gaz also had the 18 months or so assisting Peschi and clearly never made the same mistakes. You could say he was lucky to be given a chance to manage us as some chairman would have got rid of both
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Post by cbh1 on Jan 12, 2016 19:27:30 GMT
Quote from a certain forum poster when we dared to have a thread back in October regarding Gary Rowett.
'He left and he ain't coming back. Thanks Gaz. See ya.'
Maybe at this point in time we need to replace 'Gaz' with 'Jimmy' and all move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 20:04:21 GMT
This thread was intended to thank Jimmy and was turned into pointing out QPR's failings?
The difference is this one is one month on from his departure, the October thread was a year on, and although a fair thread with good comments, nearly every time Jimmy was praised before then Gaz's name somehow was brought in and it was getting a bit tiring.
I agree with cbh statement for this thread. I just wish that had happened after Ben's interview was posted on Dec.9th.
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Post by mikeyboy on Jan 12, 2016 22:46:11 GMT
JFH did an incredible job in his short time with us But he inherited a great set up Others before him produced that - including Ben significantly He"s inherited an awful set up at QPR - you now wonder if he is qualified to do the job in front of him there as it's totally different to this one Rowett and Nigel probably both more qualified for the QPR job as they didn't inherit great situations. They created them. Different jobs don't you think Peacock? If he's on a rolling one year contract then that doesn't fit with what's needed to be done at QPR IMO Gaz started his full managerial career at the beginning of the 2012-13 season, and Jimmy at the biginning of 2013-14, so no I don't agree with the more experience statement. Rowett was our manager for two seasons plus 2.5 months and took us to Wembley. Jimmy was our manager for one season plus one month and won L2 outright with 94 points breaking a few records along the way. Nigel did well with the funds and resourses he had over 10 years to get us into the League (I think he deserves that credit despite leaving before the job was done). Gaz did a great job building the squad. I think Jimmy did a better job managing that squad and went on to create a much better squad which Nigel has inherited.If he continues to succeed will you say he inherited a great setup? I certainly hope so. Gaz left fairly quickly for a better opportunity, Jimmy did the same. Whether Jimmy is or qualified to manager QPR cannot be answered in one month. He needs time to make his changes, create his team and put his stamp on the club. I hope those in charge of player movement and the finances allow him to do that. EDIT: just saw this so not sure he will be allowed to (they are obviously looking for income)... Steven Caulker: Liverpool sign QPR defender on loan.... Gaz and Nigel would be in the same position if they were there so to imply things would be better is not factual enough for me. But, you missed my question (which was to mikeyboy btw). People raved about Nigel and Gaz when Jimmy was manager, what has changed that says people cannot rave about the job Jimmy did now he has left? Edited for woodys correction. that was bit silly of me. I didn't realise that it was a question for me Peacock and I honestly can't recall even one thread praising Nigel when Jimmy was manager. But he is now our manager and deserves our support in the same way as we supported Jimmy, as I do believe we are lucky to get him back. |
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Post by trevor1946 on Jan 13, 2016 15:00:24 GMT
Peacockbrewer--Never will J-F-H- history with the club be forgotten,and Rowett and Clough will also be remembered,I remember peski and wished him well.
You are correct the thread is a thank you to J-F-H ,And his time with the club.
But most threads after a while take a new twist, That's why it is still going,,it moves on.
Reference to his new job surly is still about the man,and not disrespectful,
Burton Albion embrace their managers and the time spent here,unlike many clubs,and the fans enjoy Ben Robinson's vision
And to rave about what J-F-H did is fine and like Rowett n Clough its part of Burton's history,now,they have moved on and so shall the club.
Oh Clough is back,but again what he did is in the past,this is a new chapter,and will be judged,from NOW
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 13:06:27 GMT
JFH best ever manager for BAFC but he chose to leave,Nigel Clough(not my choice) is now in charge,but to be fair he has done very well so far,and now should be supported in all the decisions he makes in the future.
Time to move on Nigel Clough is the manager now!
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Post by NobodyGood on Jan 16, 2016 11:35:16 GMT
Austin is leaving to Southampton for £4m.
There goes Jimmy's job.
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Post by observer on Jan 16, 2016 17:04:01 GMT
Much needed 3-0 win today
That takes pressure off
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