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Post by dcpedigree on Feb 7, 2019 11:48:50 GMT
I agree, it will cost a bit, but i have no doubt it will pay financially in the long run, whichever league we are in. Will give the Marketing department scope to grow the fan base. Leisure and entertainment is such a growing industry, why aren't we capitalizing. It really is a shame that the breweries aren't forthcoming in sponsoring something like this, i find it incredible that they are no where to be seen. We are called the Brewers for goodness sake.
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Post by bennyboy on Feb 7, 2019 12:26:35 GMT
In one respect our success has worked against us increasing the fan base in some ways... Let me explain. In the old days going to watch the Brewers was a cheap way to watch footie but also the cheap and easy way to introduce your children to football: just wander or drive down to Elton Park, Park up by the ground or Elton Road and go to the game and it wouldn’t cost a fortune like at.... Derby County. That’s what we did about twenty years ago in what turned out to be a vain effort to get our son interested. Regardless of our failure though that’s the way the future fan base of a club is created if the ploy works. Now days it’s almost as cheap to go to that hellhole of a concrete non descriptive stadium at Derby... whatever they call it now. So why go to Burton some might question. I would go further. Clubs such as Mickleover Sports have taken a few fans away from us. The type of fan who enjoyed non league footie with the small club mentality. My husband, who for a few years was treasurer there went there because he felt that was the sort of small club that Burton Albion had been, but was no longer ( he is weird though) ... and then there is the Burtonian apathy....
We may have crossed paths Norah, I use to park up on Elton Rd and walk over the bridge to the ground, I'll say no more than that.
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Post by NobodyGood on Feb 7, 2019 13:21:23 GMT
Some interesting points here. Made me realise my own self interest. I like standing because traditionally we stood at football and we're one of the last few where you still can in the FL. But that's me and I'm not the future, not in terms of bringing offspring along and getting them interested anyway (my grandson's not fussed about football). A guy called Tom who I know only from standing near him on the Popside now sits down... because he brings his grandson, which rather backs up some of the points above. Certainly serious food for thought for Ben... * Brentford seem to have got away with it by promising they're about to build a new ground....honest... very soon... no, reallyThey have actually started building now apparently... Ready for the 2020/21 season, or if they have used the same company building Spurs ground 2047/48. newstadium.brentfordfc.com/news/more-views-our-new-homeI am in the same category as you Colston, prefer to stand, but I do occasionally sit and find it quite comfortable. Im wondering whether the Popside could have fixed seating for the first 3 or 4 rows and safe standing 'seating' the back few rows thereby allowing those that want to to continue to stand without impeding the view. Maybe the priority though is to make the away end all seater, thereby allowing the main stand to be home seating only - that frees up around 300 seats and removes the need for some seats to be unused for segregation purposes. That would be enough room then for a family area at the home end of the ground. All of the options require a good deal of investment though. Not sure that money is readily available. Probably the most sensible idea.
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Post by NobodyGood on Feb 7, 2019 13:21:37 GMT
But does reduce away capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 15:53:31 GMT
In one respect our success has worked against us increasing the fan base in some ways... Let me explain. In the old days going to watch the Brewers was a cheap way to watch footie but also the cheap and easy way to introduce your children to football: just wander or drive down to Elton Park, Park up by the ground or Elton Road and go to the game and it wouldn’t cost a fortune like at.... Derby County. That’s what we did about twenty years ago in what turned out to be a vain effort to get our son interested. Regardless of our failure though that’s the way the future fan base of a club is created if the ploy works. Now days it’s almost as cheap to go to that hellhole of a concrete non descriptive stadium at Derby... whatever they call it now. So why go to Burton some might question. I would go further. Clubs such as Mickleover Sports have taken a few fans away from us. The type of fan who enjoyed non league footie with the small club mentality. My husband, who for a few years was treasurer there went there because he felt that was the sort of small club that Burton Albion had been, but was no longer ( he is weird though) ... and then there is the Burtonian apathy....
We may have crossed paths Norah, I use to park up on Elton Rd and walk over the bridge to the ground, I'll say no more than that.
You do both mean ETON Road and ETON Park don’t you?
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Post by bennyboy on Feb 7, 2019 20:38:13 GMT
^^^ Not me, definitely Elton Rd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 21:45:20 GMT
The only Elton Road I know is in Derby, and I don’t know of any football clubs there.
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Post by swaddy Dave on Feb 8, 2019 6:42:16 GMT
There's an Elton lane in Newborough, but it would then have been quite a walk to Eton park.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 7:45:50 GMT
Isnt Elton Close just off Dwight Drive, around the corner from Welsby Avenue?
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Post by bobgauden on Feb 8, 2019 20:08:21 GMT
Isnt Elton Close just off Dwight Drive, around the corner from Welsby Avenue? Letsby avenue
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Post by bobgauden on Feb 8, 2019 20:10:02 GMT
Elton rd derby there's a brilliant painting of Brian Clough on a wall. Just up from Royces
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Post by everard on Feb 8, 2019 20:46:25 GMT
Google Maps.....
Or a 1960s street atlas of the County Borough of Burton-upon-Trent
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Post by everard on Aug 17, 2019 10:42:49 GMT
We had the seats thread in February.... I still believe that it is the principal answer to growing our attendances... Along with the improvements to facilities that Mikeyboy suggests... Whether we can fund it without a longer run in the Championship I don't know... In some ways... most ways.. the Pirelli is an upgraded Eton Park... suitable for a club playing between the Conference and League 2....while we're over-achieving in League 1 and realistically hoping for Championship football again... its letting us down a bit... Its overcapacity of seats at grounds (when sides are perhaps not doing so well) that enables clubs to offer real cheap deals for young uns like Mikey's grandson and thus hook em in and grow support for the future.. Not much fun for young kids to stand... Or old'uns whose legs or backs have gone...!!!
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Post by staffordbrewer on Aug 17, 2019 11:51:59 GMT
Longterm help you'd think kids for a quid or just free every so often, they throw plenty of money in marketing sponsoring Uttoxeter race meetings each year prize money for every race at one meeting and have advertising boards, probably better spent on extra staff when letting local kids in for free? I've no idea why they throw money at Uttoxeter racecourse as it's pretty much a non local event, town gets flooded from people from everywhere. I don't have any skills in marketing but as I'm from that area and have an annual badge it beats me why they bother?
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Post by trevor1946 on Aug 18, 2019 15:17:48 GMT
Dear brewers having a pleasant sat afternoon.strolling in and out of the Pirelli.with 2-200 Burton fans luxury living this and watching some top clubs and a few league 1 clubs,my local supermarket is busier, great credit to this Really well run club , delivering league football at all , is testament to the owner and staff. and a league cup semi final against one of the best teams in the world, If it was a novel it would be fiction. so far approx 8-000 fans have watched two x Championship teams and i thank the away supporters with 3-200 coming down to our part of the country, I like many others would like the club to grow and compete with others of our stature but we have to go to non league where 2-400 fans make you competitive. Having thought about our plight. I enjoying watching a cheap assembled squad punching above their weight putting Burton on the map,and showing what can be achieved and how high you can go without a fan base,is unbelievable. I have come to terms with the situation enjoy the moment and hope we stay stable and keep out of non=league. To all the boo=boys save it till we are in the conference and on a level playing field and enjoy the open spaces were you can sit or stand,there were plenty of empty seats on sat
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Post by dovecliff on Aug 18, 2019 20:01:15 GMT
In one respect our success has worked against us increasing the fan base in some ways... Let me explain. In the old days going to watch the Brewers was a cheap way to watch footie but also the cheap and easy way to introduce your children to football: just wander or drive down to Elton Park, Park up by the ground or Elton Road and go to the game and it wouldn’t cost a fortune like at.... Derby County. That’s what we did about twenty years ago in what turned out to be a vain effort to get our son interested. Regardless of our failure though that’s the way the future fan base of a club is created if the ploy works. Now days it’s almost as cheap to go to that hellhole of a concrete non descriptive stadium at Derby... whatever they call it now. So why go to Burton some might question. I would go further. Clubs such as Mickleover Sports have taken a few fans away from us. The type of fan who enjoyed non league footie with the small club mentality. My husband, who for a few years was treasurer there went there because he felt that was the sort of small club that Burton Albion had been, but was no longer ( he is weird though) ... and then there is the Burtonian apathy.... I totally agree with Norah views since this is exact path I took with my own children. I was never taken to football matches by my father, so grew up as a young boy supporting a team (Aston Villa) who I never saw in the flesh. When my own boys came along I wanted the Dad / son going to footy matches experience. As a young family I couldn’t afford the match day expense and time going to Villa Park so decided to go and watch my local team. This period did also coincide with Nigel stepping into the manager role at Eton Park. A lot of the time my youngest son wasn’t even interested in the football rather playing with a crushed coke can in the corner of the stands. But in a short time he caught on and both boys were hooked. We never made it to Vauxhall Motors since it was on a school night, but we were there for Torquay, Cambridge and Doncaster. My sons are now 27 and 23 years old and have been season ticket holders for many years. We have numerous fond memories and stories following the brewers and in this busy world we live in it is still a time we all come together at a game and go a few sherbets afterwards If any Dad or Mum with a young son or daughter is reading this I would only recommend getting down to your local club and start watching games. I’ve shared some truly fantastic memories and experiences supporting the brewers with my sons, I have a smile on my face whilst writing this now. These are our memories never to be lost and you can’t buy this experience or togetherness. Regarding getting the attendances up I would agree seating would be a positive step forwards. We stand and have always stood but at times and for some of the bigger games you had to get to the ground early so be sure the boys could get a view of the pitch. This was never really an issue at Eton Park but at the Pirelli this did sometimes cause problems, making sure they were safe. When we first moved to the Pirelli my youngest could hardly see over the front stand barrier and we had to try and get near to the pathway bottoms since there would be a gap in the barrier to look through. Suitable seating where our younger supporters could get a good view and be safe from crowd movement would have been nice to have going back in time for those odd big games. COYB’s
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Post by colstoncrawford on Aug 19, 2019 14:10:43 GMT
I do like Dovecliff's story. It's a lot about how I think things should be. I grew up in Derby, listening to them on the radio... my dad wasn't into sport. But I liked the idea of non-league football, the closeness to the action, and while my first game was because of work, there was also the fact that Kevin Hector was playing for the Brewers at the time; for me the most elegant natural footballer I've seen live. One game and I was hooked. I don't get the approach of those who would drift off to another club. This is my club for better or worse. I don't think we've lost a significant number to Mickleover. I must admit, I viewed League Two with trepidation, then League One and certainly the Championship... I felt the Brewers had kept the value that had attracted me in the first place and I wanted (still want) them to be different to other clubs, to succeed differently. By and large, my fears have been unfounded. I've found proper fans to be proper fans however big their club and they have been pleased to be welcomed warmly at the pub I go to. I like the fact I can still stand at football. It feels right. However, I'm closing in on the point where my knees will protest too much. I can't offer a comprehensive answer about the future but I do know I don't want this club to change too much. The changes we have made have, largely, been right. We've evolved, not thrown money at it. Long may that be the case.
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Post by jackbrewer on Aug 19, 2019 14:54:16 GMT
I was at the first match at Wellington Street, I was 11 at the time I lived in Wellington Street and used to watch Lloyds play. I have watched the Albion ever since, I started taking my 2 sons from when they were about 6 years old and they still go, one is nearly 50 and the other is 37, so come on fans start them early and help build a good fan base.
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Post by trevor1946 on Sept 13, 2019 16:32:37 GMT
In one respect our success has worked against us increasing the fan base in some ways... Let me explain. In the old days going to watch the Brewers was a cheap way to watch footie but also the cheap and easy way to introduce your children to football: just wander or drive down to Elton Park, Park up by the ground or Elton Road and go to the game and it wouldn’t cost a fortune like at.... Derby County. That’s what we did about twenty years ago in what turned out to be a vain effort to get our son interested. Regardless of our failure though that’s the way the future fan base of a club is created if the ploy works. Now days it’s almost as cheap to go to that hellhole of a concrete non descriptive stadium at Derby... whatever they call it now. So why go to Burton some might question. I would go further. Clubs such as Mickleover Sports have taken a few fans away from us. The type of fan who enjoyed non league footie with the small club mentality. My husband, who for a few years was treasurer there went there because he felt that was the sort of small club that Burton Albion had been, but was no longer ( he is weird though) ... and then there is the Burtonian apathy....
We may have crossed paths Norah, I use to park up on Elton Rd and walk over the bridge to the ground, I'll say no more than that.
Burtonian apathy hard to get use to it, but a football power house for fans,is not Burton Albion. looking for a cheap way to watch Quality footballers is not a option,and to boo and complain when small low league clubs with 10,000 gates and less.make our 2-500 fans base at home just mind boggling on a big scale. Looking for top 6,with championship football the next phase.Events on the pitch have far exceeded the Burtonian mind set. And history will show what a great football club.Burton Albion was on the pitch, Battling the odds. A club playing Championship football and lower league football for the last 20 years Taking 8-387 in midweek to London,to play Arsenal yes in the Carabau cup,.Even Coventry in the mess they are in sell out 8 days before general sale. But Burtonians can pay on the gate, Shame on anyone who can boo, or criticize this fantastic and well run club,With our loyal 2-500 Brewers
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Post by bennyboy on Sept 13, 2019 20:03:12 GMT
I was in conversation with an over 65 Rams fan last Saturday and me too being of that age (just) we compared what we pay season ticket wise. His ticket cost £35 less than mine and obviously seated, I stand. I know we can't be charging less or we'll be doing a Bury or Bolton and be financially broke. I'm happy paying what I do but yes it's hard to attract fans when they go elsewhere to get their football fix, some for less or not that much more money.
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