Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Fan base
Sept 13, 2019 20:39:38 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2019 20:39:38 GMT
I was in conversation with an over 65 Rams fan last Saturday and me too being of that age (just) we compared what we pay season ticket wise. His ticket cost £35 less than mine and obviously seated, I stand. I know we can't be charging less or we'll be doing a Bury or Bolton and be financially broke. I'm happy paying what I do but yes it's hard to attract fans when they go elsewhere to get their football fix, some for less or not that much more money. That, my friend is a really realistic post. It is so difficult.
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 13, 2019 22:02:55 GMT
via mobile
Post by craig1 on Sept 13, 2019 22:02:55 GMT
We really could do with some extra seating as I'm sure we could fill another section. I reckon if we had the middle section in the Northstand looking opposite to the main stand tunnel seated it would sell out as it's in a great position, probably a better overall view than the main stand plus you get the sunshine! Standing either side of the seats so regulars still have the option of standing. Also the east stand? Still get to stand! Win win?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Fan base
Sept 14, 2019 6:43:46 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 6:43:46 GMT
We really could do with some extra seating as I'm sure we could fill another section. I reckon if we had the middle section in the Northstand looking opposite to the main stand tunnel seated it would sell out as it's in a great position, probably a better overall view than the main stand plus you get the sunshine! Standing either side of the seats so regulars still have the option of standing. Also the east stand? Still get to stand! Win win? Problem with standing alongside seating is that those sat down have their view blocked to the sides.
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 14, 2019 8:11:32 GMT
via mobile
Post by bennyboy on Sept 14, 2019 8:11:32 GMT
Very difficult to determine how it would go with our long standing fans (pun intended) if we were to introduce seating where they once stood. My thinking would be to construct an all seated popside and make it at the same capacity roughly as it holds now. Keep the away and home ends standing, if you ever notice they stand behind the goals anyway at all matches even with seats. Of course I wouldn't be happy at sitting (I'm fit enough ATM) but it could attract more fans who like a seat and are deterred as it's currently standing room only some matches. Then of course it's a matter of financing it all, it ain't cheap, a good cup run won't pay for it, it's a gamble whatever we try.
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 14, 2019 10:51:58 GMT
via mobile
Post by craig1 on Sept 14, 2019 10:51:58 GMT
We really could do with some extra seating as I'm sure we could fill another section. I reckon if we had the middle section in the Northstand looking opposite to the main stand tunnel seated it would sell out as it's in a great position, probably a better overall view than the main stand plus you get the sunshine! Standing either side of the seats so regulars still have the option of standing. Also the east stand? Still get to stand! Win win? Problem with standing alongside seating is that those sat down have their view blocked to the sides. 😂 That's a good point, could take it in turns stand up bob down! Etc
|
|
|
Post by jackbrewer on Sept 14, 2019 11:06:33 GMT
It would also reduce the capacity of the pop side unless it could somehow Be extended.
|
|
|
Post by rhys0204 on Sept 14, 2019 12:55:48 GMT
When we went up, there were plans to put a second tier with aprrox 1000 on the away end, but it was scrapped for whatever reason. Maybe we need to reconsider, but for the popside instead?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 14:03:15 GMT
As you can see from my username, I now live 200 miles away so rarely get to games anymore. I'm now a regular at Torquay. Similar size club with a similar capacity ground. Those of you who have been to Plainmoor will have seen that the main stand is all seated and the home end is also all seated and designated as the family stand. The popside and away ends are both standing. The popside has a great atmosphere on match days with plenty of flags and singing. Seating the home end at Pirelli would increase the seating capacity and perhaps encourage more people to go, you just have to convince those that stand in the home end to move around the corner.
|
|
|
Post by trevor1946 on Sept 15, 2019 9:09:18 GMT
Burton Albion are at a crossroads,again our 2-500 hard core show up, i wish to thank the Coventry fans for visiting the Pirelli in numbers,and know more would have come if allowed,Standing for them is a novelty,and our stadium is like a blast from the past.I was delighted to see the main stand full and the seats below me,normally sparsely filled full, what a joy.It was nice to be part of a good atmosphere. To move forward seating has to come,But the problem is costing for the club has been set for years, Administration and The team and to take money from the playing side would be folly,it already works on a shoe string. it is rewarding to see games on the teli and saying he used to play for Burton and i now say that a lot. Ben Robinson knows a more seats is very important for the club to progress,And if people around the area put in a fraction of his efforts,seats would be the least of his worry's,Expanding the ground would be a must,and how nice it would be to hold on to quality players,especially to clubs in our own league, Of coarse it cheaper to watch Derby after 7 years 160 million spent,selling their ground,to escape punishment now deciding mid table is o=k.i watched their game fri against Cardiff.and watching Burton playing against Coventy far more entertaining,Watching Derby might be cheap but not cheerful. Clough could well remake the song after all these years
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 15, 2019 16:42:47 GMT
via mobile
Post by mikeyboy on Sept 15, 2019 16:42:47 GMT
A couple of points from me: 1) I was worried when we signed John-Joe as a potential Central Defender and I thought he was maybe going to be a weak link. But I thought he was superb yesterday. We have had Nartey and McFadzean mentioned but I thought John-Joe was better than both. 2) Surely to God we have to do something about home attendances.
|
|
|
Post by insideleft on Sept 15, 2019 17:02:59 GMT
A couple of points from me: 1) I was worried when we signed John-Joe as a potential Central Defender and I thought he was maybe going to be a weak link. But I thought he was superb yesterday. We have had Nartey and McFadzean mentioned but I thought John-Joe was better than both. 2) Surely to God we have to do something about home attendances. Very much agree.
|
|
|
Post by bartonyellow on Sept 15, 2019 21:33:42 GMT
I think sometimes the number of fans we get doesn't bother me as much as the lack of atmosphere we get. I've resigned myself to the fact it won't increase. It's still very non league in some respects. We need an anthem. We need some people singing and less flask and blanket types behind the goal. Seat the popside. Reduce the capacity, and then make behind the goal just for singers and people who want to shout and swear and jump around like morons when we score. I can only think of a couple of games where the atmosphere borders on electric and the rest it's silent bar away fans. If we had the money I would suggest rebuilding the popside with a larger single tier seated stand that runs the full length and meets the other two stands to enclose the noise.
|
|
|
Post by insideleft on Sept 16, 2019 10:00:52 GMT
I think it was Britty in another thread who said he was getting fed up with this debate. I think he has a point but there are two issues here.
The bigger picture, longer term issue of building the fanbase which I think everybody knows will only be solved with increased seating and as a debate, yes it’s done with.
The issue that is a bit bemusing is what I’d call the missing 500. Only 18 months ago we’re in the Championship, up against it, getting beaten but you felt the hard core home support was perhaps approaching 3000; the pop side and behind the goal was certainly busy in all areas.
Now playing great football, great cup runs, up against it still but competing and doing well in Div 1 yet you feel our hard core is approaching only 2000; there are gaps in the wings of all terraces. It’s getting those 4-500 back?! Where have they gone.
|
|
|
Post by trevor1946 on Sept 16, 2019 11:25:26 GMT
I think they were away supporters,we played a lot of clubs within a 40 mile radius who have big away followings, even against Coventry Ben Robinson was welcoming some well known sky blues fans into the banqueting area,and i am sure some of our fans have friends who support Coventry. For the Brewers to get over 4-000 we have to have a full allocation of away tickets sold. The football club is a example of how to budget within your means. and no club has maintained Championship status with a fan base of 2-500. Away fans mostly are the most vocal,and even league 1 our fan base is poor .Britty is right it is a waste of time keep banging on about it.we are what we are. We are a example to all the small clubs out there as to what can be achieved,and most of our supporters are very proud of what this backwater club has achieved with so little finances. I would love nothing more than a small modern football stadium in recognition of a believe ,next year lets try to do better, A all seated Ben Robinson stand opposite the south stand, A man whose wisdom and patience helped put Burton On Trent on the map ,with a statue of his longest serving manager outside. A tribute to what miracles can happen in our national game
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Sept 16, 2019 11:31:42 GMT
When we went up, there were plans to put a second tier with aprrox 1000 on the away end, but it was scrapped for whatever reason. Maybe we need to reconsider, but for the popside instead? There were indeed option appraisals done on expanding the away end whilst we were in the Championship. I believe, and it was publicised somewhere at the time, that the decision not to go ahead was taken as it was not financially viable. Despite the fact that it would have increased capacity at the away end, the number of times that the away end was actually fully sold out and therefore additional capacity would have been required was not actually that many times. I.e. I think only about half of the 23 home games actually sold out for away fans. The costs, both of construction, and also the matchday running of it would not have been covered by the additional revenue generated from seated as opposed to standing ticket sales and additional takings at food/drinks outlets which would have to be stocked and manned at additional costs. I guess there would be similar discussions around trying to seat a home area. Would the additional admission revenue/matchday revenue be sufficient to cover the significant costs of developing that area of the ground? Its a difficult dilemma I agree. One to which there is no easy answer.
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 16, 2019 21:25:39 GMT
via mobile
Post by britty on Sept 16, 2019 21:25:39 GMT
I think it was Britty in another thread who said he was getting fed up with this debate. I think he has a point but there are two issues here. The bigger picture, longer term issue of building the fanbase which I think everybody knows will only be solved with increased seating and as a debate, yes it’s done with. The issue that is a bit bemusing is what I’d call the missing 500. Only 18 months ago we’re in the Championship, up against it, getting beaten but you felt the hard core home support was perhaps approaching 3000; the pop side and behind the goal was certainly busy in all areas. Now playing great football, great cup runs, up against it still but competing and doing well in Div 1 yet you feel our hard core is approaching only 2000; there are gaps in the wings of all terraces. It’s getting those 4-500 back?! Where have they gone. Yes it was and yes I am.....
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 16, 2019 22:12:15 GMT
via mobile
Post by bartonyellow on Sept 16, 2019 22:12:15 GMT
I think the annoying thing is the club does a fair bit in the community with schools to attract new fans. Living in Barton we often saw staff at the infant school and there is plenty of advertising around too. Bar short of a stupendous season ticket offer or Kids for a quid schemes I do not know what else can be done. 4400 against coventry would have been 4800 in our promotion season. Think we had 4750 against Shrewsbury that season. We seem to have lost 400-500 regulars.
|
|
|
Post by britty on Sept 17, 2019 5:47:17 GMT
I think the annoying thing is the club does a fair bit in the community with schools to attract new fans. Living in Barton we often saw staff at the infant school and there is plenty of advertising around too. Bar short of a stupendous season ticket offer or Kids for a quid schemes I do not know what else can be done. 4400 against coventry would have been 4800 in our promotion season. Think we had 4750 against Shrewsbury that season. We seem to have lost 400-500 regulars. It was closer to 4600 for Coventry and 3800 for Shrewsbury in our L1 promotion season. I think this is part of my problem, people over over stating the issue...
|
|
|
Post by bermudabrewer on Sept 18, 2019 0:25:52 GMT
I've followed the thread here and agree it's a difficult problem. In defence of the club, I was at the Coventry game and was surprised and impressed how many young children were in attendance in the immediate area around where I was seated. This is the future of the club of course, but getting them young is a long term strategy and we have to be patient to see the benefits.
|
|
|
Fan base
Sept 18, 2019 18:00:46 GMT
via mobile
Post by mikeyboy on Sept 18, 2019 18:00:46 GMT
I've followed the thread here and agree it's a difficult problem. In defence of the club, I was at the Coventry game and was surprised and impressed how many young children were in attendance in the immediate area around where I was seated. This is the future of the club of course, but getting them young is a long term strategy and we have to be patient to see the benefits. Our season tickets prices are £297 for my Grandson, an under 9 - he could get one at Forest for £35, at Derby ages 2-12 they are FREE. If we had more seats we could offer huge incentives too but simply do not have that option. For floating fans with kids - I’d say it’s a no brainer.
|
|