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Post by observer on Nov 11, 2014 22:25:19 GMT
Sports journalists have loads of contacts - could have come from anywhere
I'm surprised how long the chairman kept them at bay with who was in the frame as it is
I'm thinking Oldfield applied for managers job and Ben has paired them up. I'm sure we will find out
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Post by E7#9 on Nov 12, 2014 7:40:30 GMT
Well I do know that some professionals knew about the appointments of Clough and Pesch before details were officially released but kept their silence. Obviously a better class of journalist in the local press.
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Post by frenchy1 on Nov 12, 2014 8:47:49 GMT
I really cant believe the negativity from the doom and gloom mongers on here before a ball has even been kicked under Jimmy`s management. FFS give the bloke a chance,make a judgement after about ten games or so. Get Real!
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Post by observer on Nov 12, 2014 8:59:40 GMT
I really cant believe the negativity from the doom and gloom mongers on here before a ball has even been kicked under Jimmy`s management. FFS give the bloke a chance,make a judgement after about ten games or so. Get Real! From me it's not negativity it's just uncertainty I've watched the club make slow and steady progress in my short time following us With our budgets etc you can't take too many risks etc I believe JFH is a risk - he could turn out to be fabulous - he could sink without trace in this League You can't get blood out of a stone and our players have limitations So for me it's a gamble and clearly we all hope it pays off but I expected a steadier appointment myself The next few months could be anything
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 9:12:43 GMT
I really cant believe the negativity from the doom and gloom mongers on here before a ball has even been kicked under Jimmy`s management. FFS give the bloke a chance,make a judgement after about ten games or so. Get Real! I'll give him two and a half seasons (hopefully).
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Post by E7#9 on Nov 12, 2014 9:26:21 GMT
Until Ben announces it, I don't know who the new manager will be.
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Post by everard on Nov 12, 2014 9:52:27 GMT
I haven't seen much negativity - if any - I'm sure most fans will give the guy a chance.....I guess the bar has risen at BAFC over the years...so squeezing out the marginal returns of improvement is surely getting a more difficult task for each new manager - maybe some are expecting at least a finish in the top seven so that we are at least guaranteed our annual play-off end to the season. Personally, providing we don't get relegated and so long as I can see how JFH (or anyone else) is trying to improve us then I wouldn't think the end of the world was due if we finished mid-table or below.
For all his sound financial management, Ben has shown during his Chairmanship of the club that he is prepared to take a risk on new managers - some might say Pesch didn't quite come off (tho' I'm not sure if Ben or all others would take that view.)
There's inevitably uncertainty with an untried manager - but there's no guarantees of instant success even when an experienced and successful manager at an existing club moves to a new one - there are countless examples of glorious failure and mediocrity we can all think of....
I do know that the new management team has got three tough fixtures to start with....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 9:57:15 GMT
I really cant believe the negativity from the doom and gloom mongers on here before a ball has even been kicked under Jimmy`s management. FFS give the bloke a chance,make a judgement after about ten games or so. Get Real! I'll give him two and a half seasons (hopefully). Nice one funky, that sounds about right ! Hopefully he will leave us in the Championship having gone himself to the Premier league, with us playing total football and the Albion will have led a football revolution all of there own, with the Pirelli full every week and plans for an increase in capacity in the pipeline ! Obviously I jest ! Seriously, it is a time of uncertainty after a period of stability, Jimmy Floyd is coming in and is a bit of an unknown quantity to us in managerial terms, we are not sure of what to expect. I believe he did quite well at Royal Antwerp and I know he revived the career of John Bostock. JFH is his own man with his own ideas. He wanted the job, he must have interviewed well and impressed Ben. I'm excited by his appointment from many different angles and will be fully behind him, he needs to do well for himself to progress so if that works out to our benefit great, if not, well we move on. Its a brave move by Ben in my opinion. Slightly off topic I was looking at an interview with JFH whilst he was manager at Antwerp and he was commenting on an unwritten rule clubs operate in Belgium, clubs all play 6 Belgian nationals, whether that applies in the top division also I couldn't work out.
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Post by observer on Nov 12, 2014 9:59:30 GMT
We will all be fully behind him of course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 10:28:16 GMT
I haven't seen much negativity - if any - I'm sure most fans will give the guy a chance.....I guess the bar has risen at BAFC over the years...so squeezing out the marginal returns of improvement is surely getting a more difficult task for each new manager - maybe some are expecting at least a finish in the top seven so that we are at least guaranteed our annual play-off end to the season. Personally, providing we don't get relegated and so long as I can see how JFH (or anyone else) is trying to improve us then I wouldn't think the end of the world was due if we finished mid-table or below. For all his sound financial management, Ben has shown during his Chairmanship of the club that he is prepared to take a risk on new managers - some might say Pesch didn't quite come off (tho' I'm not sure if Ben or all others would take that view.) There's inevitably uncertainty with an untried manager - but there's no guarantees of instant success even when an experienced and successful manager at an existing club moves to a new one - there are countless examples of glorious failure and mediocrity we can all think of.... I do know that the new management team has got three tough fixtures to start with.... Excellent, I endorse all of that, over on FB there has been a bit of surprise expressed and concern about his lack of experience, but I have not seen anyone openly question the potential appointment. Any appointment is a risk but as I tweeted last night to one person who felt he didn't have a 'track record', Warnock did not have a track record, Clough did not have a track record, Pesch did not have a track record and Rowett did not have a track record. (McFarland did though!). I do sincerely hope we give him two or three seasons I felt at the time of Pesch's appointment any manager deserves three seasons, that proved a bit optimistic but we have seen with Clough and to an extent with Rowett, at this level, with our resources building steadily from a firm base is the way forward. JFH (if it is he) at least has an advantage of not coming into a crisis, Slimmed down management team is interesting, Summerfield, Sale, Poole gone (maybe more to follow), just Oldfield (potentially) coming in at the moment, that may prove challenging. I reckon there will be others arriving in due course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 10:43:01 GMT
I haven't seen much negativity - if any - I'm sure most fans will give the guy a chance.....I guess the bar has risen at BAFC over the years...so squeezing out the marginal returns of improvement is surely getting a more difficult task for each new manager - maybe some are expecting at least a finish in the top seven so that we are at least guaranteed our annual play-off end to the season. Personally, providing we don't get relegated and so long as I can see how JFH (or anyone else) is trying to improve us then I wouldn't think the end of the world was due if we finished mid-table or below. For all his sound financial management, Ben has shown during his Chairmanship of the club that he is prepared to take a risk on new managers - some might say Pesch didn't quite come off (tho' I'm not sure if Ben or all others would take that view.) There's inevitably uncertainty with an untried manager - but there's no guarantees of instant success even when an experienced and successful manager at an existing club moves to a new one - there are countless examples of glorious failure and mediocrity we can all think of.... I do know that the new management team has got three tough fixtures to start with.... Excellent, I endorse all of that, over on FB there has been a bit of surprise expressed and concern about his lack of experience, but I have not seen anyone openly question the potential appointment. Any appointment is a risk but as I tweeted last night to one person who felt he didn't have a 'track record', Warnock did not have a track record, Clough did not have a track record, Pesch did not have a track record and Rowett did not have a track record. (McFarland did though!). I do sincerely hope we give him two or three seasons I felt at the time of Pesch's appointment any manager deserves three seasons, that proved a bit optimistic but we have seen with Clough and to an extent with Rowett, at this level, with our resources building steadily from a firm base is the way forward. JFH (if it is he) at least has an advantage of not coming into a crisis, Slimmed down management team is interesting, Summerfield, Sale, Poole gone (maybe more to follow), just Oldfield (potentially) coming in at the moment, that may prove challenging. I reckon there will be others arriving in due course. Some excellent points raised there, that about track records funky is spot on !
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Post by frenchy1 on Nov 12, 2014 10:49:04 GMT
Excellent, I endorse all of that, over on FB there has been a bit of surprise expressed and concern about his lack of experience, but I have not seen anyone openly question the potential appointment. Any appointment is a risk but as I tweeted last night to one person who felt he didn't have a 'track record', Warnock did not have a track record, Clough did not have a track record, Pesch did not have a track record and Rowett did not have a track record. (McFarland did though!). I do sincerely hope we give him two or three seasons I felt at the time of Pesch's appointment any manager deserves three seasons, that proved a bit optimistic but we have seen with Clough and to an extent with Rowett, at this level, with our resources building steadily from a firm base is the way forward. JFH (if it is he) at least has an advantage of not coming into a crisis, Slimmed down management team is interesting, Summerfield, Sale, Poole gone (maybe more to follow), just Oldfield (potentially) coming in at the moment, that may prove challenging. I reckon there will be others arriving in due course. Some excellent points raised there, that about track records funky is spot on ! Exactly, an experienced manager could have been appointed and it go tits up, what would the doom mongers have to say then.
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Post by observer on Nov 12, 2014 10:56:09 GMT
There is no guaranteed formula that's for sure
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 11:35:47 GMT
Some excellent points raised there, that about track records funky is spot on ! Exactly, an experienced manager could have been appointed and it go tits up, what would the doom mongers have to say then. not being funny, but I think they would probably say the same things as if goes tits up under JFH... wrong choice etc... It's true that he is not coming into a crisis situation, although there are some warranted concerns right now, but even that could backfire on him with some people. We have a tough run of games and if they don't go our way..... I just hope the real fans give the guy a chance of getting things going his way before the hatchets come out...How long is that...how long is a piece of string?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 17:36:19 GMT
JFH is tweeting away, he has retweeted many messages of congratulation from Brewers fans and he has said this himself: "thanks everyone for your very kind good luck messages! #excited "
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Post by kel on Nov 12, 2014 18:08:33 GMT
Managers have to start somewhere. Lets hope JFH can have a good start just like GR at Birmingham. When he has assessed the squad will he bring in additions from the continent? He should have some knowledge of the skill of players that we do not usually consider!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:36:25 GMT
JFH is tweeting away, he has retweeted many messages of congratulation from Brewers fans and he has said this himself: "thanks everyone for your very kind good luck messages! #excited "[/quote Has he been officially announced as the manager? Surely you would keep quiet until it's been announced ? Or maybe not!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:45:38 GMT
He actually hasn't said anything yet, but all the indications are there :-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 18:47:01 GMT
JFH is tweeting away, he has retweeted many messages of congratulation from Brewers fans and he has said this himself: "thanks everyone for your very kind good luck messages! #excited "[/quote Has he been officially announced as the manager? Surely you would keep quiet until it's been announced ? Or maybe not! Just looked at his Twitter messages seems to be right he is the new manager confirming it himself,pity the club could not have announced it instead of a Twitter account.
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Post by brewer1874 on Nov 12, 2014 18:51:37 GMT
It's JFH. He has said so himself. "Gotta run got a job to do"
The interesting thing is now who will be his backroom team?
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