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Post by mikeyboy on Aug 31, 2014 9:59:30 GMT
McDonald is unusual for a footballer because of his stocky build and probably has to work very hard to keep fit. He came through the Burnley Academy which is one of the best in the UK and also appeared for Scotland at youth level so he has ability and whilst I have not always been his biggest fan, I recognise that he has come on in leaps and bounds over the last year. I feel the superb facilities at St George's Park have contributed to what his surely the best spell of his Football League career to date.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 11:06:11 GMT
From the footage on TV I don't think the ref's view of the stamp was blocked, he could see to the left of their no. 7, even if it was the linesman had a clear view. Awful officiating. As for the red card for Weir, I don't think it was deserved, but I also don't think it will be appealed. Rowett said the ref told him he was dismissed for a head butt, there was no butt. However, his report I am sure will mention his walking purposefully to confront the Stags player and a coming together of heads. If it didn't at 5.30pm last night, it will do this morning after Drysdale has seen the footage. Weir was daft to go and confront him. If you could get a red card for stupidity...
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Post by 9sirchristian on Aug 31, 2014 11:25:07 GMT
I wasn't impressed with The Stags thuggish approach and expect they will continue to struggle. Seeing as me and my mate were subjected to a bit of verbal on the way back to the car (cheating ****** etc) I do wish them all the best in the Vanarama next season. Promotion sides need to win ugly and we are already masters of this.It looked like the Sherrif was beaten to a header for their goal, but when was the last time that happened? Weir was an idiot for getting up and walking 10 yards to confront McGuir,after we'd already been awarded a free kick. This will give Bell and Palmer chance to stake their case. Feeling immensely proud of the club at the moment, and incidentaly our drummer must have a repetative stress injury this morning.
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Post by oxfordbrewer on Aug 31, 2014 11:25:12 GMT
Never a sending off. Joke of a decision. In other news, having watched the football league show, I hope the cameras at Portsmouth are more than 3ft off the ground for our game next week! Agree with the red card Oxford...they should have had at least two for their disgusting tackles and the punch late on. Don't worry about camera angles at Portsmouth mate...we're at home next weekend. Haha, naturally assumed that the only reason we were on tv was because we were playing away at a 'bigger' club
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Post by claymillman on Aug 31, 2014 11:27:01 GMT
Just listened to Cox's post match interview. He seems mainly to bemoan their team's inability to pick up second balls from all od those launched into the box to score from. That could well explain why they are where they are, with that as the main game plan. Reminds me of Histon . He thought they deserved a draw though at least. I think as last year, that they are a very poor team, and frankly although I went to the game, what I saw was totally predictable, and very poor entertainment. The Brewers played ugly to win and the win is well received by us all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 11:33:31 GMT
If you watch the Weir incident carefully Drysdale has his red card in his hand ready to dismiss McGuire but then doesn't. You can say what you want about him but football clubs up and down the land all know what an awful referee he is and he gives the profession a bad name. Had he dealt with the incident correctly and dismissed McGuire the chances are the Weir would not have retaliated so Drysdale got it wrong like a great many of his decisions. Any way you look at it Drysdale is a very poor official and has been for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 11:56:30 GMT
Immense result and keeps the points tally ticking over nicely at this early stage.
Weir's dismissal - never in a million years. I accept that these days intent is as bad as the actual offense but I've watched it back a few times and I really can't see any intent there. He confronted him, absolutely...but intent to headbutt? No chance.
The goal was a combo of SCS losing the header and McLaughlin getting caught in no man's land. Bit of a question so far for me concerning his decision making and to be quite honest I haven't seen anything yet that has set him apart from Lyness, BUT...he is vastly experienced and am sure he'll settle.
I don't know if anyone remembers someone who used to post on the old message board...I think his username was "Pez" and he followed both Burton and Mansfield. When Pesch got sacked he was a massive advocate of us getting Paul Cox in and dumping the (then caretaker) Rowett as soon as possible. He even went as far as suggesting a protest before a home game against Gillingham as he was such a strong believer in Paul Cox. Yesterday's match and the general feeling of discontent towards Cox from Mansfield supporters just made me think about what could have been.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 12:59:04 GMT
I saw Pez at Mansfield yesterday, I also saw him at Oxford and Newport ! By the way did anyone who went on the official coaches lose a match day programme yesterday ? I found one on the way back to the car and would be happy to return it.
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Post by dave on Aug 31, 2014 13:00:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 13:21:07 GMT
Those incidents at the end are out of order aren't they?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 13:23:50 GMT
Unfortunately this video doesn't show Weirs reaction and the ref blowing his whistle for 4-5 secs trying to get him to stop. And I maintain the refs view of that incident was at least partially blocked, and the ARs was totally blocked. Re: their goal, when our wall broke one CB went with the players, one stood watching. Re: the keeper incident, the initial contact on McLaughlin was called for a foul. If Phil had kept calm, with less than a minute to go, the game was over. But he is every bit at fault, or more, for the handbags afterwards, and he did go down quite easily.edit: both players should have been cautioned but in the 97th min you can see why they weren't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 13:32:57 GMT
Darren Drysdale is still an incompetent referee no matter how you dress it up !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 13:45:41 GMT
Unfortunately this video doesn't show Weirs reaction and the ref blowing his whistle for 4-5 secs trying to get him to stop. And I maintain the refs view of that incident was at least partially blocked, and the ARs was totally blocked. Re: their goal, when our wall broke one CB went with the players, one stood watching. Re: the keeper incident, the initial contact on McLaughlin was called for a foul. If Phil had kept calm, with less than a minute to go, the game was over. But he is every bit at fault, or more, for the handbags afterwards, and he did go down quite easily.edit: both players should have been cautioned but in the 97th min you can see why they weren't. The linesman had a completely unimpeded view of the stamp
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 15:15:19 GMT
Not sure this works but linesman's view can only be obscured by a wayward snail. Ref I think also had a good view to the left of their big lad. Peacock's view is a bit blinkered.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 16:37:56 GMT
Robbie didn't deserve a red for the confrontation with Mcguire, Mcguire actually very slightly moves his head towards Weirs. Guessing what was said amongst all this plus the approach towards Mcguire can be construed as retaliation. Changing the subject slightly, according to my mate who ate there say the food offerings were awful, he and others said they lobbed them in the bin.
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Post by observer on Aug 31, 2014 17:20:36 GMT
With the squad we have I think weir being suspended won't be such a bad thing. Gives a chance to Palmer or someone else to stake a claim for a place and show what they can do.
We've got plenty more battlers and bottle in the team.
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Post by Newark Colin on Aug 31, 2014 21:01:02 GMT
From what I have seen, both players should have received the same punishment for the confrontation. The stamp was much worse, a definite red for a dangerous and cowardly act.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 10:12:27 GMT
I saw Pez at Mansfield yesterday, I also saw him at Oxford and Newport ! By the way did anyone who went on the official coaches lose a match day programme yesterday ? I found one on the way back to the car and would be happy to return it. Always baffled me. I'm sure I remember him being incredibly pro Mansfield/anti Burton Albion (especially anti Ben Robinson) yet he seemed to know us inside out and always went to the away games.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 10:17:16 GMT
View AttachmentNot sure this works but linesman's view can only be obscured by a wayward snail. Ref I think also had a good view to the left of their big lad. Peacock's view is a bit blinkered. Bottom line is (and as terraceman said) Drysdale is utterly incompetent. His assistants were equally as inadequate and shouldn't be refereeing professional football. Unfortunately incompetency is something that seems to be a requirement for officials these days. Bear in mind we've still probably got the incredible Mr. Kettle to come at some point this season. Will probably be in the return fixture.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 10:43:43 GMT
View AttachmentNot sure this works but linesman's view can only be obscured by a wayward snail. Ref I think also had a good view to the left of their big lad. Peacock's view is a bit blinkered. Bottom line is (and as terraceman said) Drysdale is utterly incompetent. His assistants were equally as inadequate and shouldn't be refereeing professional football. Unfortunately incompetency is something that seems to be a requirement for officials these days. Bear in mind we've still probably got the incredible Mr. Kettle to come at some point this season. Will probably be in the return fixture. Not at the game so can only comment on the stamp and headbutt incident shown on FLS and on YouTube. It is perfectly clear to me that both the referee and lineman had an excellent view yet ignored the stamp and only dealt with the aggressive walking of Weir. Had Drysdale forgotten the stamp? Pathetic refereeing. Overall I thought the standard of officiating was improving at the games I've been to. I hope this was an off day and that we don't get him again. Kettle is yet to come, woe is me... :-(
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