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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 13:26:58 GMT
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Post by swaddy Dave on Sept 7, 2015 13:41:37 GMT
Plenty of room, nowhere near a sell out, in fact I personally thought it was quite a disappointing attendance, we were talking and said there didn't look many more there than any other league game.
Any more talk of announcing an incorrect attendance needs stopping right now it is down right disrespectful to a tremendously well run club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 14:15:22 GMT
You'll have to pass that new law on to SkyTV and several radio stations... Add, no more talk of disappointing attendances, it's embarrassing to the fans and the club.
The way this thread is going we won't be able to say anything.we need to lighten up.
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Post by swaddy Dave on Sept 7, 2015 14:37:01 GMT
You'll have to pass that new law on to SkyTV and several radio stations... Add, no more talk of disappointing attendances, it's embarrassing to the fans and the club. The way this thread is going we won't be able to say anything.we need to lighten up. You have got the wrong end of the stick Peacock, I am not saying people shouldn't talk about disappointing attendances, I am saying people should not insinuate that the club are announcing incorrect attendances for whatever reason, I for one do not believe this is happening.
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Post by footytalk on Sept 7, 2015 15:41:44 GMT
Thanks to brewster for helping with my match preview and good luck for the rest of the season (except when you play us again) If anyone would like to join me and talk football with other fans from throughout the football leagues sign up, www.football-talk.org/forum/phpBB3/index.php would love to see a few of you on there even looking for someone to represent Burton as a moderator so if you are interested get in touch.
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Post by observer on Sept 7, 2015 16:48:48 GMT
Radio Derby commentators were adamant the attendance must be incorrect they pointed out that our terrace behind the goal and the terrace opposite our seats must only have 1200 fans in them altogether to be correct.
Those two stands hold 3400 approx between them which means for the attendance to be correct those two stand which were not sold out must have been at 35 per cent cacpacity
Just over one third full each.
I looked closely on TV the big terrace opposite our seats was at the very least 75 per cent full
Behind the goal was certainly some space but I would still say that stand was at least half full as well
Does anyone honestly believe there was only 1200 fans in those two stands put together
That would mean that coventry had more fans behind the goal (1300 if they failed to sell 100 of their tickets) than we had in the rest of the terracing put together
I'm not suggesting wrongdoing by the club but quite simply the attendance wasn't calculated accurately
Would be really interested to hear the club comment on where the other 2300 fans would be accommodated in the ground if they believe the figures are correct
I'm OCD on stuff like this. I'm very happy to be shown to be wrong or Radio Derby to be shown to be wrong but I certainly feel it's a question that should be answered even if it's just to shut people like me up once and for all
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Post by swaddy Dave on Sept 7, 2015 17:19:41 GMT
Plenty of spare seats in Cov end of main stand, plenty of room in home end plus the camera scaffolding taking up some, plenty of room in popside and a complete block taken up for tv equipment. May I suggest therapy for the OCD and faith in BAFC board.
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Post by skyblueelephant on Sept 7, 2015 17:20:05 GMT
I think Sky's slo mo has shown that the flicker was onside, as he was level with the guy who chested it towards the goal. Jon Mc flapping and missing compounded an earlier error I think. It's clear that people do not understand the offside law, but admittedly it is a difficult one and annual amendments do not help. A player (the flicker) cannot be onside simply because he is level with his own teammate (the chester, whose actual last touch was off his foot). There has to be 2 defenders between him and the goal. BUT, on further review neither were offside when Murphy crossed the ball. But, the chester/footer was offside when the flicker flicked it. I think. Hey-ho. Anyway, this debate and viewing multiple slo mo replays multiple times really highlights the difficult job that referees and assistant referees have when having to make these difficult decisions in a fraction of a second! Does anyone agree with that last sentence? You clearly don't understand the offside rule, I believe someone has cleared it up for you on the previous page. Its not an obscure rule, I thought it was fairly well known tbh.
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Post by skyblueelephant on Sept 7, 2015 17:24:13 GMT
It's clear that people do not understand the offside law, but admittedly it is a difficult one and annual amendments do not help. A player (the flicker) cannot be onside simply because he is level with his own teammate (the chester, whose actual last touch was off his foot). There has to be 2 defenders between him and the goal. BUT, on further review neither were offside when Murphy crossed the ball. But, the chester/footer was offside when the flicker flicked it. I think. Hey-ho. Anyway, this debate and viewing multiple slo mo replays multiple times really highlights the difficult job that referees and assistant referees have when having to make these difficult decisions in a fraction of a second! Does anyone agree with that last sentence? The definitive offside was from the header to the boy who chested it back across goal. The rest is up for debate due to inconclusive camera angles. Keeper should have done better and we should have taken our chances. That would have been offside but its pretty clear on replay he doesn't get a touch with his head from the cross.
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Post by Norah on Sept 7, 2015 19:00:02 GMT
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Post by observer on Sept 7, 2015 19:39:03 GMT
Plenty of spare seats in Cov end of main stand, plenty of room in home end plus the camera scaffolding taking up some, plenty of room in popside and a complete block taken up for tv equipment. May I suggest therapy for the OCD and faith in BAFC board. Now that's good as there's first explanation I've heard that sounds reasonable swaddy. Appreciate that. I have ultimate faith in BAFC board. I tell everyone I know Burton have one of the best owners in British football but shouldn't stop us asking questions when we have them should it? If we didn't just discuss this topic on here I would be non the wiser and just thinking we've got the figure wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 20:54:18 GMT
It's clear that people do not understand the offside law, but admittedly it is a difficult one and annual amendments do not help. A player (the flicker) cannot be onside simply because he is level with his own teammate (the chester, whose actual last touch was off his foot). There has to be 2 defenders between him and the goal. BUT, on further review neither were offside when Murphy crossed the ball. But, the chester/footer was offside when the flicker flicked it. I think. Hey-ho. Anyway, this debate and viewing multiple slo mo replays multiple times really highlights the difficult job that referees and assistant referees have when having to make these difficult decisions in a fraction of a second! Does anyone agree with that last sentence? You clearly don't understand the offside rule, I believe someone has cleared it up for you on the previous page. Its not an obscure rule, I thought it was fairly well known tbh. You clearly don't read posts before making daft statements. My first comment about offside was responding to a statement that a player cannot be offside if he is level with his teammate when the ball is crossed. My reply was basically that "A player cannot be onside simply because he is level with his own teammate when a ball is crossed. There has to be 2 defenders between both of them and the goal when the ball is crossed otherwise they are both offside." And I cleared it up for myself with this post on the previous page. "From this vid it seems the refs got it spot on... Cov goal.mp4 (828.58 KB) Read more: burtonbrewers.proboards.com/thread/2011/coventry-home?page=6#ixzz3l6GWxAIp" And it's not a rule, it's a law...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 20:56:33 GMT
You'll have to pass that new law on to SkyTV and several radio stations... Add, no more talk of disappointing attendances, it's embarrassing to the fans and the club. The way this thread is going we won't be able to say anything.we need to lighten up. You have got the wrong end of the stick Peacock, I am not saying people shouldn't talk about disappointing attendances, I am saying people should not insinuate that the club are announcing incorrect attendances for whatever reason, I for one do not believe this is happening. Oh boy! Read my post, you totally missed the point.
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Post by swaddy Dave on Sept 7, 2015 22:09:34 GMT
You have got the wrong end of the stick Peacock, I am not saying people shouldn't talk about disappointing attendances, I am saying people should not insinuate that the club are announcing incorrect attendances for whatever reason, I for one do not believe this is happening. Oh boy! Read my post, you totally missed the point. Sorry if I am being thick but you will have to explain then because I totally don't get your meaning ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 22:19:07 GMT
When Murphy crossed it the player was offside at that point, end of! When the player flicked it he was still offside, and the flicker touched it into the goal when he was all alone behind Jon MCL .... m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=lI3ulvg3crIBut stuff happens, we are in 5th after 6 games! COYB! You have to understand skyblueelephant that peacock is a referee After reviewing the evidence on youtube, admittedly not the greatest source, he was wrong, wrong, and wrong. But acknowledging that is not in his nature. As for your excellent analysis using stills from Sky, he has in the past suggested such stills have been photoshopped. His first comment on the 'offside' is above. His misinterpretation of my comments of the player being level clearly missed my previous comment about him being level with the ball as it was played. It was a goal. Making those split second decisions is incredibly difficult and by and large the referees and linesmen do a great job. They got it right on this occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 23:47:32 GMT
And, You have to understand skyblueelephant that funky is a cricketer (he plays in a Buddy Holly tribute band I think ), and doesn't really get football apparently. And he is a stirrer, looking to create some negative angle on things, and answers questions asked of other posters.. He must be bored. In his last post he forgot to mention my following clarifications to my original post which was made after a few post match pints ... 1. BUT, on further review neither were offside when Murphy crossed the ball. But, the chester/footer was offside when the flicker flicked it. I think. Hey-ho. Read more: burtonbrewers.proboards.com/thread/2011/coventry-home?page=5#ixzz3l6Cbxee52. And he failed to mention my 2nd clarification... "From this vid it seems the refs got it spot on... Cov goal.mp4 (828.58 KB) Read more: burtonbrewers.proboards.com/thread/2011/coventry-home?page=6#ixzz3l6GWxAIp" 3. And he thought it was offside 27 times "On the 28th watching of the 'offside goal' I think it is agreed that as the guy chests the ball, the goalscorer who flicks it in on the line, is probably level with the ball. TV is not completely in line but probably the correct decision, albeit on the first 27 views he looks offside… Read more: burtonbrewers.proboards.com/thread/2011/coventry-home?page=6#ixzz3l6GWxAIp"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 9:43:56 GMT
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Post by bennyboy on Sept 8, 2015 12:55:22 GMT
Plenty of spare seats in Cov end of main stand, plenty of room in home end plus the camera scaffolding taking up some, plenty of room in popside and a complete block taken up for tv equipment. May I suggest therapy for the OCD and faith in BAFC board. ^^^^ This. There was plenty of elbow room for us in the North terrace, like wise there looked ample room behind the goal (home) Also a few empty seats (away) end. I was expecting a bigger crowd, noticed there were a few familiar faces missing around us, holidays? Sky? I don't know. I say all this and reckon the attached figure announced was about right.
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Post by bennyboy on Sept 8, 2015 12:58:59 GMT
^^^ Why is the word familiar censored above, I spelt it correctly?
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Post by bennyboy on Sept 8, 2015 13:01:06 GMT
^^^ There we go again. I am trying to say folks I know that I recognise were not there.
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