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Post by mikeyboy on Aug 4, 2012 16:27:13 GMT
2-1 Brewers, scorers Weir 29 and Kee 79, Grigg for Walsall on 7.
Attendance: 883 and 327 were Walsall.
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Post by reg on Aug 4, 2012 16:38:53 GMT
Crap first 20 minutes or so, then pretty good, great to see Billy back with a great goal!
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Post by discodave on Aug 4, 2012 17:08:49 GMT
Decent game, great Kee goal, very exciting thunderstorm. Nice to see Stanno at right back second half, much more comfortable and better than Corbs who was run ragged the entire first half. Robbie Weir looks very good and hopefully with him and Bell plus Dyer we'll see a lot less of McGrath this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2012 18:21:58 GMT
the defense looked better in the 2nd half, Weir and Bell make a vg combo in the middle . i was impressed with Adi for the first time (I wasn't at Leceister game). I really hope Mags injury isn't too bad but I'm not feeling too good about it. He had to be helped off by two trainers. cracking goal from Billy, wey-hey!!
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Post by porky on Aug 4, 2012 18:29:41 GMT
I'm afraid Adi Useless has done nothing to impress me today, against Derby or on any other occassion I've seen him play . We were poor for twenty minutes or so today but got better as the game went on . Weir is a superb signing and deserved his MOM . Taylor worked hard but he's still a long way off what we expect of him . Kee isn't ready yet, despite his goal ( which was awesome) he didn't look sharp. A good display from Burton but I think Walsall will feel they deserved to win .
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Post by discodave on Aug 4, 2012 20:30:09 GMT
I'm thinking a back four of Stanton-Diamond-Holness-McCrory could be very solid. Get Jacques over on the right wing, Webby on the left with Bell and Weir in the middle. Then Kee + 1 other.
I can see Richards possibly struggling to get many games if our other strikers stay fit and we sign Adebola, as he isn't really an off the bench type striker.
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Post by brewer95 on Aug 4, 2012 23:09:37 GMT
I thought Stanton was brilliant in the second half, I'm hoping that will be our defensive partnership against Sheffield United, another good performance by Weir, and it was great to see a goal by Billy.
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Post by jonesy on Aug 5, 2012 8:23:29 GMT
I'm afraid Adi Useless has done nothing to impress me today, against Derby or on any other occassion I've seen him play . . Have to agree I'm afraid. He was perhaps the worst player on the pitch against Ilkeston, yes, Ilkeston. Unfortunately he simply does not have the ability to strike a ball with any quality/consistency. He scuffs almost everything, with both feet. I am actually a little worried he has got so much game time in pre-season. If we sign Adebola, that makes Yussuf 5th choice after Kee, Richards, Zola and Adebola, all of whom are immeasurably better than poor Adi. I was staggered we kept him on to be honest. I think he is very, very lucky to be signed to a FL club.
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Post by E7#9 on Aug 5, 2012 9:31:23 GMT
No need to get at Yussuf man - he just a kid.
Lots of positives to concentrate on.
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Post by jonesy on Aug 6, 2012 7:48:46 GMT
E7, yes, there do appear to be lots of good things going on, but I am worried that Yussuf's involvement in quite a bit of pre-season suggests he is going to figure quite a bit during the season. Kee, Zola and Richards (and Adebola if that comes off) are all proven strikers at this level - and some higher. Yussuf simply cannot strike the ball well with any regularity. He is no better than numerous anonymous strikers who have come and again (e.g. loanees) over the last few years, but we have given him a new contract. He is 20 this side of Christmas I think, so yes he is young but he's not 16. Thesedays players really need to be showing what they're about by the time they hit late teens/20. Sure no one would expect him to be the finished article, but for me he doesn't even show the potential to be a quality L2 striker, let alone being one right now. Time will tell.
Bear in mind, he's only about a year younger now than Kee was last season. The gulf between the two is enormous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 10:18:59 GMT
but I am worried that Yussuf's involvement in quite a bit of pre-season suggests he is going to figure quite a bit during the season. Zola and Richards are injured and Kee is not ready for 90 mins yet. So who would you play as striker? The kids not gonna get better sitting on the bench watching.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 10:21:40 GMT
The gulf between the two is enormous. Using that kind of logic, would you suggest Man City drop Alex Tchuimeni-Nimely because he's not as good as Aguero yet?
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Post by everard on Aug 6, 2012 12:17:24 GMT
E7, yes, there do appear to be lots of good things going on, but I am worried that Yussuf's involvement in quite a bit of pre-season suggests he is going to figure quite a bit during the season. Kee, Zola and Richards (and Adebola if that comes off) are all proven strikers at this level - and some higher. Yussuf simply cannot strike the ball well with any regularity. He is no better than numerous anonymous strikers who have come and again (e.g. loanees) over the last few years, but we have given him a new contract. He is 20 this side of Christmas I think, so yes he is young but he's not 16. Thesedays players really need to be showing what they're about by the time they hit late teens/20. Sure no one would expect him to be the finished article, but for me he doesn't even show the potential to be a quality L2 striker, let alone being one right now. Time will tell. Bear in mind, he's only about a year younger now than Kee was last season. The gulf between the two is enormous. I think the reason Adi has featured a lot in pre-season is primarily because Richards and Zola are injured and Kee is working his way back into match fitness - so not had 90 mins yet. GR is right about Adi when he says his strength and pace frighten defenders......I suspect that the fear subsides somewhat when they realise he can't shoot - he rarely gets a shot away as he lines himself up so deliberately and slowly defenders have time to read the paper before blocking his efforts. If he does get one away, the chances are it'll not be on target. Surely some coaching and practice could improve this aspoect of his game. Similarly it's not rocket science to learn how not to get offside so often. There were signs in the Leicester game - the only pre-season I've seen - that he was looking up a little more often and inking uo well with others......time will tell if he can learn the things he needs to and add them to his undoubted natural attributes
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Post by jonesy on Aug 6, 2012 13:36:51 GMT
The gulf between the two is enormous. Using that kind of logic, would you suggest Man City drop Alex Tchuimeni-Nimely because he's not as good as Aguero yet? No, the issue for me - unlike with the Man City analogy - is that Yussuf doesn't appear to have sufficient basic skills to make it in this league. As Everard said, he lines up shots so slowly and deliberately and doesn't strike the ball well. Yes, in theory that can be worked on - but don't you think excellent coaches at Leicester worked on it with him, apparently with little success?
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Post by discodave on Aug 6, 2012 20:11:21 GMT
He reminds me of the likes of Sean Gummer and Eric Graves.
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Post by jonesy on Aug 6, 2012 21:17:10 GMT
Albion legends discodave!!
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Post by Frank Ashton on Aug 6, 2012 21:28:10 GMT
Yes, in theory that can be worked on - but don't you think excellent coaches at Leicester worked on it with him, apparently with little success? I don't think we should assume that the coaches worked on him at Leicester. Bigger clubs tend to hoover up promising young talent to stop rival clubs from getting to them first. Sometimes they might unearth a gem, sadly in most cases, after a period of time they are just dumped into the ranks of the unemployed. The lucky ones will be picked up by clubs in L2 and below, others lost to football forever.
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Post by jonesy on Aug 7, 2012 8:55:30 GMT
I know what you mean Frank but I can't believe they would sign somebody up who they thought showed promise and make no effort at all to try and nurture that promise into something more. I have a funny feeling the lad may even get a start next Saturday in view of the bleak injury picture painted in today's paper!
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Post by discodave on Aug 7, 2012 12:39:03 GMT
I think Yussuf has 'Pearson syndrome', in which if he doesn't score a goal he really doesn't offer anything else whatsoever to the side.
If he can't score goals then we have a problem, he's not lightning quick, he's not a hold up player and not very skillful either so it's not like he can fall back on anything else, like say Zola can with his strength and holding up.
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Post by yellowarmy12 on Aug 7, 2012 14:14:20 GMT
I think although we let in that early goal we did well to battle back and it was nice to see Weir score again and Kee back on the pitch with a goal. Hopefully he will get a full season with no injuries this time round and be able to bang in goals for fun again.
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