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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 12, 2024 19:38:03 GMT
Seems like he's a very similar style of player to Joe Sbarra if I was to compare.
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Post by mikeyboy on Jul 13, 2024 7:23:19 GMT
The Magpie Messi (formerly the Purple Messi), scored 58 goals in 173 appearances for City of Liverpool FC and then 10 in 36 for Chorley FC in the National League North last season. Chorley FC Manager Andy Preece’s player of the year last year. We have paid a near 6 figure fee to Chorley for his signature.
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Post by annable on Jul 13, 2024 11:09:30 GMT
I think this signing more than the others shows where we are as a club now under the new ownership. To pay, call it £100k, for a 25 year old who has had one decent season at National League North level and several decent seasons before that at an even lower level, in the past this would just never have happened. This is a signing that you would normally class as risky but our new owners clearly have deep pockets and can afford these sorts of risks and if it works out it could be a master stroke. If it doesn't, well hey ho, it's only £100k. I haven't been keeping tabs on how many fees we have paid, and indeed they have all been undisclosed, but you get the feeling that we must be close to the million pound mark by now in fees shelled out. In comparison to the majority of teams in the league we have gone from a club operating on limited resources to one of the big spenders(in relative terms). The new owners certainly not holding back.
That said that for all the investment in mainly young, upcoming talent we still have to put a team together that can compete at this level and win some games quickly and until we see what the first choice team is going to be and how they cope and perform then we just won't know. Anyway it's exciting times with no doubt more to come and also some whose data stats don't stack up being moved on.
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Post by Ilson Brewer on Jul 13, 2024 11:38:26 GMT
A couple of weeks back, someone kindly posted a picture of what the current squad looked like positionally with new signings etc. I wonder if there is an updated version anywhere.
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Post by bartonyellow on Jul 13, 2024 12:17:51 GMT
Even better than that..do we have an updated list of those that have left and those that have joined ? I’ve lost track…
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Post by Ilson Brewer on Jul 13, 2024 13:28:48 GMT
Even better than that..do we have an updated list of those that have left and those that have joined ? I’ve lost track… Yes, the website has not been updated yet. I’m struggling to remember who is who.
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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 13, 2024 13:48:28 GMT
I'm no good at making official graphs or pictures but I'll do my best to give us the current state of play on here.
Players Signed:
- Elliot Watt - (Free Transfer) - Salford - Jason Sraha - (Undisclosed Fee) - Shrewsbury - Geraldo Bajrami - (Free Transfer) - Notts County - Tomas Kalinauskas - (Free Transfer) - Den Bosch - Ben Whitfield - (Free Transfer) - Barrow - Julian Larsson - (Undisclosed Fee) - Nottingham Forest - Charlie Webster - (Undisclosed Fee) - Chelsea - Alex Bannon - (Undisclosed Fee) - Queens Park - Udoka Godwin-Malife - (Undisclosed Fee) - Swindon - Daniel Orsi - (Undisclosed Fee) - Crawley - Rumarn Burrell - (Free Transfer) - Cove Rangers - Dylan Williams - (Loan/Transfer Option) - Chelsea - Jack Armer - (Undisclosed Fee) - Carlisle - Billy Bodin - (Free Transfer) - Oxford Utd - Jack Hazlehurst - (Undisclosed Fee) - Chorley
Additional Scholars/Professional Deals Signed:
- Kamil Dudek - Will Tamen - Toby Oakes - Cameron Gilbert - Dylan Scott
Player departures:
- Jamal Blackman - (Released) - Jake Caprice - (Released) - Mustapha Carayol - (Released) - Bobby Kamwa - (Released) - John Brayford - (Retired) - Josh Gordon - (Free Transfer) - Walsall - Sam Hughes - (Free Transfer) - Stockport - Aristote Nsiala - (Free Transfer) - Shrewsbury - Joe Powell - (Free Transfer) - Rotherham - Tom Helwett - (Free Transfer) - Poole Town - Charlie Lakin - (Free Transfer) - Walsall - Cole Stockton - (Undisclosed Fee) - Salford - Josh Walker - (Undisclosed Fee) - Southend
Where the squad can all play positionally/squad depth (Strongest position will be bold):
Goalkeepers:
- Max Crocombe - Kamil Dudek
Defenders:
- Tom Hamer - (Right Back/Centre Back/Left Back) - Udoka Godwin-Malife - (Right Back/Centre Back) - Finn Delap - (Right Back/Centre Back) - Geraldo Bajrami - (Centre Back/Defensive Midfield) - Jasper Moon - (Right Back/Centre Back/Left Back) - Jason Sraha - (Centre Back/Left Back) - Toby Oakes - (Right Back/Centre Back/Defensive Midfield) - William Tamen - (Centre Back) - Alex Bannon - (Right Back/Centre Back/Defensive Midfield) - Ryan Sweeney - (Centre Back) - Cameron Gilbert - (Centre Back/Right Back) - Dylan Williams - (Centre Back/Left Back/Left Wing) - Jack Armer - (Left Back)
Midfielders/Wingers:
- Rekeem Harper - (Defensive Midfield) - Elliot Watt - (Defensive Midfield) - Charlie Webster - (Central Midfield) - Ciaran Gilligan - (Central Midfield/Wide Midfield) - Kegs Chauke - (Central Midfield/Wide Midfield) - Ben Whitfield - (Attacking Midfield/Winger) - Tomas Kalinauskas - (Left Winger/Right Winger) - Mason Bennett - (Left Winger/Striker) - Billy Bodin - (Right Inside Forward/Winger/Striker) - Jack Hazlehurst - (Attacking Midfield/Winger/Striker) - Jakub Niemczyk - (Left Winger/Right Winger/Striker)
Attackers/Strikers:
- Danilo Orsi - (Striker) - Rumarn Burrell - (Striker) - Julian Larsson - (Left Winger/Striker) - Dylan Scott - (Striker)
Player in Limbo:
- Mark Helm - Out of Contract/Contract Offered - (Attacking Midfielder)
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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 13, 2024 14:16:20 GMT
In addition to the above, if we do include Mark Helm, that gives us a squad size of 31, which is obviously miles too big.
Six of those are likely to go out on loan or be on the very fringes of the first team squad (Dudek/Oakes/Gilbert/Delap/Niemcyzk/Scott).
Hamer, Moon, Harper, Chauke, Bennett are supposedly out of favour/possibly available for transfer, although we don't know what's going on for sure, so that's another five that could well be gone. I see no reason in keeping them around if they aren't in the plans.
So if the above happens, that gets the squad size down to a more modest twenty in numbers. It's certainly not out of the question that some of the younger signings we've made are seen as a longer term project, so I guess we can't rule out loans out for some of those too.
I think we need around another four signings before the season begins. A backup goalkeeper, a big strong central midfielder, a wide player, and a striker.
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Post by bartonyellow on Jul 13, 2024 20:05:54 GMT
In addition to the above, if we do include Mark Helm, that gives us a squad size of 31, which is obviously miles too big. Six of those are likely to go out on loan or be on the very fringes of the first team squad (Dudek/Oakes/Gilbert/Delap/Niemcyzk/Scott). Hamer, Moon, Harper, Chauke, Bennett are supposedly out of favour/possibly available for transfer, although we don't know what's going on for sure, so that's another five that could well be gone. I see no reason in keeping them around if they aren't in the plans. So if the above happens, that gets the squad size down to a more modest twenty in numbers. It's certainly not out of the question that some of the younger signings we've made are seen as a longer term project, so I guess we can't rule out loans out for some of those too. I think we need around another four signings before the season begins. A backup goalkeeper, a big strong central midfielder, a wide player, and a striker. Thanks for doing this. Most appreciated I agree, 3-4 more players and it might start to take shape and we can hopefully enjoy the season. Formations aside of course - will they gel, are they fit etc. I’m excited though. Can’t wait for this season. Not felt that way since about 2019-20 season.
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Post by fergo on Jul 14, 2024 7:48:04 GMT
Most of the players have no league 1 experience but we are signing potential on 3 to 4 year contracts. If 2 or 3 turn out to be brilliant then we can sell on for a good profit. I guess that's part of the new owners sustainable model. It's certainly exciting times ahead.
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Post by imonlyhereforthebeer on Jul 14, 2024 9:32:52 GMT
I think this signing more than the others shows where we are as a club now under the new ownership. To pay, call it £100k, for a 25 year old who has had one decent season at National League North level and several decent seasons before that at an even lower level, in the past this would just never have happened. This is a signing that you would normally class as risky but our new owners clearly have deep pockets and can afford these sorts of risks and if it works out it could be a master stroke. If it doesn't, well hey ho, it's only £100k. I haven't been keeping tabs on how many fees we have paid, and indeed they have all been undisclosed, but you get the feeling that we must be close to the million pound mark by now in fees shelled out. In comparison to the majority of teams in the league we have gone from a club operating on limited resources to one of the big spenders(in relative terms). The new owners certainly not holding back. That said that for all the investment in mainly young, upcoming talent we still have to put a team together that can compete at this level and win some games quickly and until we see what the first choice team is going to be and how they cope and perform then we just won't know. Anyway it's exciting times with no doubt more to come and also some whose data stats don't stack up being moved on. It looks a similar move to me when the Brewers signed Josh Walker from Dagenham in 2023. Albeit Walker was from the National League. Obviously that move didn’t work out, so it’ll be interesting to see how Hazelhurst progresses.
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Post by strettonbrewer on Jul 14, 2024 10:00:48 GMT
Feel we still need some quality signings and experience.
GK DM - Quality/Experience ST - Quality/Experience 2 wingers - 1 young hungry loan from Chelsea, 1 permanent proven
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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 14, 2024 10:54:18 GMT
I think our remaining signings could be the most important of the window.
Think we could do with a quality experienced head in midfield more than anything, the same goes for up top.
We haven't really utilised the loan market yet other than Williams. Maybe that will solve the keeper backup.
Maybe a lot will depend on if we can shift the remaining lads we supposedly don't want off the books, we might be financially better off but we can't have 5 players on a combined £10/£15k a week sitting in the stands.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jul 14, 2024 11:02:21 GMT
Something I'll be writing about. We can only guess how good Hazlehurst may be but...
Ian Wright (Greenwich Borough) Jamie Vardy (Stocksbridge Park Steels, Halifax Town) (who we didn't take a punt on when Fleetwood did...) Roger Davies (Worcester City) etc
v Josh Walker and any number of others.
Sometimes you strike gold.
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Post by Ilson Brewer on Jul 14, 2024 11:43:14 GMT
If I look at these signings without my amber-tinted spectacles on, I see a lot of random, lower league and young signings with no proven experience. “If they were any good, why haven’t they been snapped up by one of the big clubs in the country. Or Derby”.
My objective self predicts that is looking like a disaster - lots of players on long contracts who will rarely play and / or are not up to league 1 standard, getting battered every week, losing confidence and the supporters, the new owner’s’ recognition of failure leading to a swift exit, massive debt and houses being built on the land once occupied by the now extinct BAFC.
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Post by ianmcgibbon on Jul 14, 2024 11:53:24 GMT
If I look at these signings without my amber-tinted spectacles on, I see a lot of random, lower league and young signings with no proven experience. “If they were any good, why haven’t they been snapped up by one of the big clubs in the country. Or Derby”. My objective self predicts that is looking like a disaster - lots of players on long contracts who will rarely play and / or are not up to league 1 standard, getting battered every week, losing confidence and the supporters, the new owner’s’ recognition of failure leading to a swift exit, massive debt and houses being built on the land once occupied by the now extinct BAFC. I'm here for you Ilson if you need to talk... 😅
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Post by craig1 on Jul 14, 2024 12:12:20 GMT
It’s great the club are trying to move forward and especially with Fleur coming back makes me think we should be ok. Regarding the team selection and the new signings we will not know until the league kicks off and the games are competitive in how we will cope with so many changes. I think we have some good additions including some unproven players at this level, so there maybe more movement throughout the season. Would have liked to have seen Hamer and Harper stay as they are both proven at this level and have the needed experience. Fingers crossed the L2 players do step up and blend in but I do recall Carlisle being a decent league two footballing side and…. 🤞🏻🏴
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Post by Fred Andrews on Jul 14, 2024 13:05:06 GMT
I like a gamble. But we do need to mix the gambles with a bit of tried & tested.
Personally I've completely no idea how things with transpire this season, there are definitely two ways this season will pan out, either a shock top half finish or a visit to League Two. Preferably the better option!
I'm more confident we've got more competence at the club than this time last season and I predicted us just surviving back then. The good thing is that if in January things aren't going quite to plan, we can use our financial prowess to try and fix it, or adding a few to charge the play offs!
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Post by mikeyboy on Jul 14, 2024 13:51:07 GMT
Yes it’s a gamble and a complete unknown for me. I think it was strettonbrewer who said we might have enough to finish 19th but with the league as tough as it is, even that is quite an ask, I honestly don’t know about how the signings will fare or the manager. But am hoping for the best like all of us, we may have to be very patient.
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Post by luke on Jul 14, 2024 15:46:16 GMT
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