Last nights referee

[bobgauden]

robinsnestforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=32094

He owed them one and boy didn’t he make amends. Disgusting

[bartonyellow]

I read a Cheltenham fan on another forum say how bias he was, and they could see it clearly. “ if I was a burton fan I’d be fuming”
However it’s not the referees fault we lost.
No dodgy penalties or sending offs. But Christ he was inept. Worst I’ve seen this season.

[sinfinbovril]

Apr 17, 2024 11:24:34 GMT bartonyellow said:

I read a Cheltenham fan on another forum say how bias he was, and they could see it clearly. “ if I was a burton fan I’d be fuming”
However it’s not the referees fault we lost.
No dodgy penalties or sending offs. But Christ he was inept. Worst I’ve seen this season.

...and that's saying something!

[luke]

I couldn't believe the foul he gave when Carayol was sandwiched by the two Cheltenham players in the 96th minute

x.com/JackBAFC/status/1780499799239700871

But ultimately, we were just as bad, bet the League Two ones are worse still

[superbrewer]

The referees assistants were no better, there was one when the Cheltenham player clearly put the ball out yet the throw in was given to Cheltenham.
I think it was something like forty or so minutes before we got our first free kick.

[jeanf]

Cannot blame the ref for our lose.....we are our own worst enemy. However the refs decisions were frankly more dire as the
Match went on.....he was pretty inept.

[jamoboy]

After reading the link posted above I decided to Google Ben Speedie to see what other comments there are about him.

I didn't have to scroll too far for an article in the Stoke Sentinel from February last year which has the headline "Port Vale boss fuming at referee". I can't do links but it's there to see. Apparently Mr Speedie disallowed a Vale goal but instead gave them a penalty and sent off the opposing player. Vale went on to miss the penalty and lost the game.

The Vale manager that day .....Darrell Clarke.

[luke]

Apr 17, 2024 15:37:31 GMT jamoboy said:

After reading the link posted above I decided to Google Ben Speedie to see what other comments there are about him.

I didn't have to scroll too far for an article in the Stoke Sentinel from February last year which has the headline "Port Vale boss fuming at referee". I can't do links but it's there to see. Apparently Mr Speedie disallowed a Vale goal but instead gave them a penalty and sent off the opposing player. Vale went on to miss the penalty and lost the game.

The Vale manager that day .....Darrell Clarke.

Some more digging into him...

www.thefa.com/news/2022/may/05/fa-charges---april-2022-050522
"INCIDENTS OF MISCONDUCT IN RELATION TO SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS

Ben Speedie, Match Official, National Group of Referees

Breaches of FA Rule E3 - Misconduct for two breaches of FA Rule E3 in respect of social media posts present on the Participant’s Facebook Account. The relevant posts were from 27 October 2010 and 8 January 2011, and these comments were publicly available to view when the FA received a complaint in relation to these comments. It is alleged that these posts are insulting and/or abusive and/or improper and/or brought the game into disrepute, contrary to rule E3.1. It is further alleged that this breach of FA Rule E3.1 is an “Aggravated breach” as defined in Rule E3.2, as they included a reference to race and/or ethnic origin and/or colour.

The Participant has until 5 May 2022 to provide a response. "

Found a thread of the Barnsley forum too when he refereed their game last week, they had a poll rating his performance and 28% percent gave him a 1/10, and the rest weren't exactly high ratings either, so we aren't the only ones unhappy

[gorbybrewer66]

Apr 17, 2024 13:11:37 GMT luke said:

I couldn't believe the foul he gave when Carayol was sandwiched by the two Cheltenham players in the 96th minute

x.com/JackBAFC/status/1780499799239700871


But ultimately, we were just as bad, bet the League Two ones are worse still

You get the same officials in L1 & L2 luke, (I don't know if that is 'fortunately' or 'unfortunately'😆)

And he only added 21 seconds on at the end of the 9 mins additional time for 2nd half, yet there were stoppages of at least 2 mins in those 9 mins. Suppose he could've added 2 hours on and we wouldn't have scored!

Exerpt from EFL site:

...All Match Officials are split into three levels - Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and the National Group.

Select Group 1 – Officiate Premier League, Championship and the occasional League One and League Two matches. Some of Select Group 1 are FIFA referees and referee Champions League and Europa League matches

Select Group 2 – Officiate Championship matches and occasionally League One and League Two games. Select Group 2 can also operate as fourth officials at Premier League matches.

National Group – Officiate League One and League Two matches and are occasionally fourth officials in the Championship.

[ianmcgibbon]

Overall I don't think the ref and officials were that bad.

No big decisions incorrect.

A few free kicks seemed to go the wrong way and one obvious throw in.

But his yellow cards looked OK to me. Popside lino got all the offsides correct and if you look back to previous games we do seem to give away a lot of free kicks. When you play with negative possession you are likely to.

[mick]

Thought the referee was poor but as said not a reason for losing. Personally when there are no PL / Championship games I would ask their refs to slum it in the lower leagues to try and at least give us the occasional glimpse of a good one. That said we’d no doubt still moan if we lost.

[luke]

Apr 17, 2024 17:54:27 GMT gorbybrewer66 said:

Apr 17, 2024 13:11:37 GMT luke said:

I couldn't believe the foul he gave when Carayol was sandwiched by the two Cheltenham players in the 96th minute

x.com/JackBAFC/status/1780499799239700871


But ultimately, we were just as bad, bet the League Two ones are worse still

You get the same officials in L1 & L2 luke, (I don't know if that is 'fortunately' or 'unfortunately'😆)

And he only added 21 seconds on at the end of the 9 mins additional time for 2nd half, yet there were stoppages of at least 2 mins in those 9 mins. Suppose he could've added 2 hours on and we wouldn't have scored!

Exerpt from EFL site:

...All Match Officials are split into three levels - Select Group 1, Select Group 2 and the National Group.

Select Group 1 – Officiate Premier League, Championship and the occasional League One and League Two matches. Some of Select Group 1 are FIFA referees and referee Champions League and Europa League matches

Select Group 2 – Officiate Championship matches and occasionally League One and League Two games. Select Group 2 can also operate as fourth officials at Premier League matches.

National Group – Officiate League One and League Two matches and are occasionally fourth officials in the Championship.

As soon as he picked up a plastic bottle that someone (a kid I assume) in the centre of the West Stand had thrown onto the pitch, I knew he wouldn't add any more time on.

Not complaining about it though, more chance of Billy Brewer being named up front on Saturday than us scoring so maybe he was pitying us

[sinfinbovril]

On this season's showing, there aren't many good refs. We've had a few but not many.

[bennyboy]

You can't blame the refs for any of our poor games this season, it's been all down to the players and selection of. It's been easy to blame them but the players fall way short of what's expected and to compensate make rash challenges, poor decisions to put things right.
Doesn't mean to say it's all been them mind, we have had some right t@@@s this season officiating.
Poor poor at last Tuesdays match, the abuse from some thrown towards the female official running the line, hope they don't give the same to their respective wife/gf, partner😪

[riverman]

Apr 18, 2024 7:32:18 GMT bennyboy said:

You can't blame the refs for any of our poor games this season, it's been all down to the players and selection of. It's been easy to blame them but the players fall way short of what's expected and to compensate make rash challenges, poor decisions to put things right.
Doesn't mean to say it's all been them mind, we have had some right t@@@s this season officiating.
Poor poor at last Tuesdays match, the abuse from some thrown towards the female official running the line, hope they don't give the same to their respective wife/gf, partner😪

I would blame the ref who disallowed the perfectly good goal to put us out of the FA Cup at Port Vale. It's all ifs and buts but if we had stayed in the FA Cup we would have had a bit more cash at our disposal in January. The season could have looked very different.
On the other hand we could have still been crap.

[mikeyboy]

Apr 18, 2024 13:57:21 GMT riverman said:

Apr 18, 2024 7:32:18 GMT bennyboy said:

You can't blame the refs for any of our poor games this season, it's been all down to the players and selection of. It's been easy to blame them but the players fall way short of what's expected and to compensate make rash challenges, poor decisions to put things right.
Doesn't mean to say it's all been them mind, we have had some right t@@@s this season officiating.
Poor poor at last Tuesdays match, the abuse from some thrown towards the female official running the line, hope they don't give the same to their respective wife/gf, partner😪

I would blame the ref who disallowed the perfectly good goal to put us out of the FA Cup at Port Vale. It's all ifs and buts but if we had stayed in the FA Cup we would have had a bit more cash at our disposal in January. The season could have looked very different.
On the other hand we could have still been crap.

I agree Riverman if that goal had stood it could have been different. We may well have pulled in sufficient revenue (that was what Ben said he had asked for) to avoid what happened in January and we could well now be sitting comfortably mid table. (We had been ahead of Derby a few weeks before). The disaster that is Martin Paterson may not have happened..