STOCKTON

[Fred Andrews]

I've actually had a look back on the Morecambe forum at some old threads and the general consensus seemed to be that he had a bad attitude, even when he was scoring goals for them. They seemed to believe for most of his last season he was running on autopilot just waiting to get out.

Remember that last season at Morecambe, before he had a run of goals in his last 4 games he had only scored 5 in 40 by that point. Maybe as much as people have bigged him up as big goalscorer, he may have been in reality just a one season wonder during the 21/22 season?

[rhys0204]

Jan 7, 2024 11:04:14 GMT Fred Andrews said:

I've actually had a look back on the Morecambe forum at some old threads and the general consensus seemed to be that he had a bad attitude, even when he was scoring goals for them. They seemed to believe for most of his last season he was running on autopilot just waiting to get out.

Remember that last season at Morecambe, before he had a run of goals in his last 4 games he had only scored 5 in 40 by that point. Maybe as much as people have bigged him up as big goalscorer, he may have been in reality just a one season wonder during the 21/22 season?

Just been reading the same myself. He plays in League 1, he's not good enough to be a prima donna and we as a club can't afford to entertain such nonsense right now. The sooner Oldham/Carlisle etc stump up the cash the better. 

I know Mason hasn't been too effective either, but at least he gets on with his teammates and appears to actually put a bit of effort in!

[keggy]

I believe, given the proper service. He could be a massive hit for us. I dont recall any bad attitude on the pitch for us. Just frustration

[strettonbrewer]

Jan 7, 2024 11:35:35 GMT keggy said:

I believe, given the proper service. He could be a massive hit for us. I dont recall any bad attitude on the pitch for us. Just frustration

Seconded

[mikeyboy]

Jan 7, 2024 10:27:43 GMT Fred Andrews said:

It might give clubs dealing with us a little more confidence/security if they know Gary is our permanent manager now rather than just caretaker? We all know he is now and I wish the club would just announce it.

I mean in terms of clubs maybe loaning us some younger talents, they might not been as keen if they don't know who the manager will be a week or two after they join.

As for Cole I'd love him to turn things around, and us suddenly start playing well, but I just struggle to see it at this point.

Do we Fred?

[Fred Andrews]

Jan 7, 2024 12:32:23 GMT mikeyboy said:

Jan 7, 2024 10:27:43 GMT Fred Andrews said:

It might give clubs dealing with us a little more confidence/security if they know Gary is our permanent manager now rather than just caretaker? We all know he is now and I wish the club would just announce it.

I mean in terms of clubs maybe loaning us some younger talents, they might not been as keen if they don't know who the manager will be a week or two after they join.

As for Cole I'd love him to turn things around, and us suddenly start playing well, but I just struggle to see it at this point.

Do we Fred?

Well if he isn't I'd be very surprised Mikey, most caretakers usually take charge for a game, maybe a couple more until someone else is appointed, although there are obviously exceptions. We've not even had a sniff of any news or action regarding a new manager, and now the 'caretaker' has been given the very important task of a huge January transfer window for us. At the minute to me, it just looks like he's the new manager for at least the foreseeable future in all but name. It would be utter stupidity from us to allow him to bring in and let players go and then a week later bring in a new permanent manager.

I still don't believe its the right decision Mills being in charge, especially going forwards longer term, everything is just very vague at the minute. After all Dino wasn't even ever confirmed officially as our manager was he? So by rights he was caretaker for over a year.

[bennyboy]

Caretakers are cheaper😁
I jest but maybe it's all we can afford.

[colstoncrawford]

Jan 7, 2024 11:04:14 GMT Fred Andrews said:

I've actually had a look back on the Morecambe forum at some old threads and the general consensus seemed to be that he had a bad attitude, even when he was scoring goals for them. They seemed to believe for most of his last season he was running on autopilot just waiting to get out.

Remember that last season at Morecambe, before he had a run of goals in his last 4 games he had only scored 5 in 40 by that point. Maybe as much as people have bigged him up as big goalscorer, he may have been in reality just a one season wonder during the 21/22 season?

Many, many times I don't agree with Michael but this is exactly right. Rather like Will Grigg (who?) he has built a reputation on one very good season, scoring-wise.
At his best, he has other attributes (he was excellent when they whipped us 5-0 but he didn't score) and I hoped it would be a master-stroke. 
All I'm saying is, the idea that he scores loads of goals season after season is a myth. Check his record. 

[uttoxbrewer]

From memory I think he scored c23 goals in 21/22 and last season didn’t score much, if at all, in the first half of last season then scored c13 goals second half of the season including 7 in the last 4 games in which Morecambe were relegated on the last game of the season when they looked down and out well before the end of the season but went on a bit of a run when he scored these 7 goals.

Can’t help but think if he leaves this month (which looks highly likely), it could go one of two ways for his next club. So will be interesting to see where he goes to.

[superbrewer]

I see Cole Stockton scored two goals yesterday for Barrow,seems to have found his scoring boots ,I think he has scored four goals for them since going on loan.

[ianmcgibbon]

Feb 18, 2024 14:40:55 GMT superbrewer said:

I see Cole Stockton scored two goals yesterday for Barrow,seems to have found his scoring boots ,I think he has scored four goals for them since going on loan.

Good for him.

Mardy
CBA

Come to mind.

[andrewb77]

Jan 7, 2024 11:36:55 GMT strettonbrewer said:

Jan 7, 2024 11:35:35 GMT keggy said:

I believe, given the proper service. He could be a massive hit for us. I dont recall any bad attitude on the pitch for us. Just frustration

Seconded

Thirded☔

[insideleft]

I will fourth it!

There were clear exchanges between Stockton and Maamria. He fell out of favour. He didn't get the service. Clearly a good player. Nothing to indicate a bad attitude.

[Ilson Brewer]

If Stockton fell out with Maamria, and if he is so good, why has he gone out “on loan” to Barrow?

[len]

I'm sure there was a comment when MP arrived that the Barrow loan deal had already been arranged prior to the new manager and Cole had made his mind up. Given, all the other club staff have stayed the same presumably they would have been aware of any attitude issues.

Sometimes, things just don't work out but that said, next season a fully motivated Cole Stockton being the best Cole he can be would clearly be an asset.

[popsidepete59]

End of the day Cole is a Brewer, and if MP thinks he'll be a positive addition to our team, then I hope Cole will stay.
If he don't want to play for the Albion, then get rid by all means.
Personally, I hope he comes back and is given a fair crack of the whip.
He's a proven goal scorer at league 1 level.

[colstoncrawford]

I think Stockton's a good player if everything is geared up around him, badly wanted him to succeed. He might yet come back and succeed under MP.

But I do wish people would stop bandying around this "proven League One goalscorer" phrase. One season he's scored significant goals in League One in a 12-year career.

[popsidepete59]

How many seasons has he played at league 1 level Colston, out of interest?

[mikeyboy]

Stockton has 79 goals in 320 senior appearances (39 scored in League 1). So 1 goal in 4, games, in a stop start career , where he has rarely had a long run at any club. Only more than 100 appearances in one stint for Morecambe out of 6 clubs. 2 if you include both spells at Tranmere.

[popsidepete59]

Feb 19, 2024 23:08:49 GMT mikeyboy said:

Stockton has 79 goals in 320 senior appearances (39 scored in League 1). So 1 goal in 4, games, in a stop start career , where he has rarely had a long run at any club. Only more than 100 appearances in one stint for Morecambe out of 6 clubs. 2 if you include both spells at Tranmere.

So I wonder what his goals per game ratio is at league 1 level?
Thanks for the stats Mikeyboy 👍