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Post by fergo on Oct 23, 2019 8:03:26 GMT
Overall we deserved the 3 points tonight. The last 5 or 10 minutes aside, we controlled the game and should have been comfortably in front by then. I guess tonight is a good example as to why we are a playoff team at best - a very good league one side would have scored a handful tonight. We were not clinical enough in front of goal. I don't like to be critical if players but tonight was a game where a very good league 1 striker would have scored a brace - unfortunately Boyce showed again that he is not the player that we thought he would be. If there is any value left in him we should cash in in January. Exactly our discussion on the way back to the car. What disappoints me the most is that we have the quality to easily be a play off team but I suspect we'll leave it too late to iron out the inconsistency, the failure to convert chances and silly fouls on the edge of our penalty area. We really are missing Quinn. The attendance is shocking. The town and the club need to think as to why it's happening. My feeling is that only about 1500 people are coming from within Burton. That's non-league. Not being at all racist but Burton does have a large Asian and Eastern European population who have no interest in the club.
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Post by fergo on Oct 23, 2019 8:15:07 GMT
On a positive note from last night's game I thought Fraser was excellent again until the last 20 when he tired a bit. Also Hutchinson did well at Left Wing back doing good coming forward at times too. Nice to see Temps back in the starting line up. Could not believe the miss by Broadhead! & Boycey should have done better when put through early second half. Like others have said we should have had 3 or 4 tonight against a bang average Wimbledon. It would not have surprised me if they have snatched an equaliser near the end.
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 23, 2019 8:26:33 GMT
Actually there were 2 Polish guys in the seats behind me last night - seemed to really enjoy it. But yes I get the gist of it. Ben is a strong man and likes to make the decisions on non football matters - it’s his club. Maybe therefore ideas don’t come out and develop. We are uncompetitive in some areas, mainly as we probably aren’t aware. Kids seating season tickets are astronomical in price and they are our lifeblood for the future (£297 for my 9 year old Grandson, against £35 at Forest and free of charge at Derby - sorry for banging on about it again!!!!). For years also I have been begging to have the same sort of ‘entertainment’ as other clubs in Corporate. An MC, ex players and managers as guests, player interviews, a quiz, man of the match awards, half time draw etc. Everywhere else does this - we don’t. I believe Corporate sales are now very low and sponsorships, mascot packages etc are suffering as well. We are very expensive - this Saturday v Blackpool we are charging £84, last week at Fleetwood it was £45. We need to do better.
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Post by riverman on Oct 23, 2019 8:27:58 GMT
No mention at all of last nights match on Burton Mail website this morning. I get it that Colston is away but you'd have thought they could at least have 'cut and paste' the match report from the clubs site. That seems to be what they do for most other news!
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 23, 2019 8:40:17 GMT
Back to football - yes we were excellent throughout the team. Reece Hutchinson had a great game, Kieron O’Hara was incredibly solid in goal. Kieron Wallace was excellent in midfield as was Scotty Fraser. Up front Boycey got through some really hard work, held it up well and was always a threat, as was young Nathan Broadhead. It was a joy to have the skills of Temps down the left - someone I really enjoy watching and to have Lloyd Dyer, a proper footballer, coming on, on the hour shows we have a stronger squad now. Great to have the options with Brayford and Bucko too. Quinny if he had been needed. A greatly enjoyable night - a crying shame so many missed it.
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Post by insideleft on Oct 23, 2019 8:48:10 GMT
Sometimes you just want the 3 points and last night was a little like that. Job done!
We started brightly with our passing game going well. We took a deserved lead through Temps but never really capitalised on it.
Wimbledon offered very little real threat. Second half we squandered 3 or 4 really good chances which meant we all had to endure a nervy last 10 minutes.
It keeps us looking up the table and I guess everybody goes home happy.
I’m not sure what our injury situation is but the bench looked strong last night if all are fit. I know Cloughie wants to use the squad and keep all involved which is exactly right but I would prefer to see Bucko and Quinny down that spine of the team. They add experience and leadership. I ought to add though Wallace had a good game in Quinny's role.
I thought the crowd was better than expected at 2223. The away end was closed, the game on iFollow, a full program of football on Sky and the red button. Agree with points above re ‘getting out of the habit’ Be interested to know at some time what the viewing figures are for iFollow games, somebody must have them?
Looking forward to Saturday.
COYB
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Post by britty on Oct 23, 2019 11:22:50 GMT
I disagree a little with the views Reece had a good game. I recall 3 occasions he have the ball away cheaply - against better opposition we would have got punished more.
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Post by bennyboy on Oct 23, 2019 11:26:33 GMT
Watching football for me becomes a bit of a habit. I love the summer, I break the habit and do other things. The season comes around too quickly in August. But once I get into it, every other Saturdsy we are at home, plus the odd Tuesday night. I can't wait. The first two tickets I took out of my season ticket wallet tonight were Bury at home and Bolton at home. The last home League game was 38 days ago. Same here, made sure I had the correct ticket😁 It doesn't help our cause though to try and get those extra fans through the turnstiles. The 3 home games are within 8 days, no prizes for guessing a fair few will prioritise the Leicester game as the one to watch, in other words some wouldn't normally come to a game and of course the cost over a short period. Been down this road before though. Was saying going back to the car when one of our lot said see you at the Southend match, I said if it's on ( international call ups) next one after that is Dec 7th🙄 league matches, our bread and butter income. You kind of feel like a part-time supporter especially this season, pre match yesterday I felt uh a night match TBH I don't really like them, give me alternate Saturdays every time but we ain't getting many 😬
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Post by trevor1946 on Oct 23, 2019 11:47:31 GMT
3 points of the relegation places.6 points of the top six,and Wimbledon at home, following on from the Fleetwood collapse,it was a big night for the club. With a 3 sided ground the match seemed low profile ,when in fact the shape of the season was the next 90 minutes. with 3 matches in one week,and the game on ifollow we scrapped 2-000. Faith was given to the team ,with few changes. The crowd was tense and the longer the game went on,with only having a i goal lead,the tension rose. Where was the drummer who rallied the fans,at Fleetwood,and announced our presence, We needed to break the tension,we needed the team to know,that Amott stand,were behind them,and our young fans,had a focal point ,where was the drummer boy, 5 minutes of extra time flew by,so we must have handled it well,but with so much at stake every body had a huge sigh of relieve,when the final whistle blew.,any body know why the drummer seems missing at home games.
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 23, 2019 12:04:09 GMT
3 points of the relegation places.6 points of the top six,and Wimbledon at home, following on from the Fleetwood collapse,it was a big night for the club. With a 3 sided ground the match seemed low profile ,when in fact the shape of the season was the next 90 minutes. with 3 matches in one week,and the game on ifollow we scrapped 2-000. Faith was given to the team ,with few changes. The crowd was tense and the longer the game went on,with only having a i goal lead,the tension rose. Where was the drummer who rallied the fans,at Fleetwood,and announced our presence, We needed to break the tension,we needed the team to know,that Amott stand,were behind them,and our young fans,had a focal point ,where was the drummer boy, 5 minutes of extra time flew by,so we must have handled it well,but with so much at stake every body had a huge sigh of relieve,when the final whistle blew.,any body know why the drummer seems missing at home games. The drummer is in good company Trev - there weren’t many at all in the Don Amott end.
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Post by broomo on Oct 23, 2019 14:55:49 GMT
I don't think the drummer misses a game, at least if it's the same lad I saw leading the drumming at Fleetwood (saw a video online).
He's the brilliant young lad who either had or still has brewers tv and I think him and his mum go home and away. Not only is he a drummer, he's also really knowledgeable about the game and our squad.
I sometimes dismiss young lads as not having enough real knowledge of the game, which is poor from me. This lad doesn't come into that category. He's a really good kid, always smiling, usually upbeat.
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Post by NobodyGood on Oct 23, 2019 17:40:25 GMT
I don't think the drummer misses a game, at least if it's the same lad I saw leading the drumming at Fleetwood (saw a video online). He's the brilliant young lad who either had or still has brewers tv and I think him and his mum go home and away. Not only is he a drummer, he's also really knowledgeable about the game and our squad. I sometimes dismiss young lads as not having enough real knowledge of the game, which is poor from me. This lad doesn't come into that category. He's a really good kid, always smiling, usually upbeat. Definitely agree. He's a good chap.
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Post by nickibird on Oct 23, 2019 20:49:48 GMT
My son is the drummer so thanks for all the positive comments (and yes he is brewerstv ☺️) He’s a 15 yr old lad who was given the opportunity last year by the club to be the drummer and he absolutely loves it! He’d never drummed before 🤣 Loves whipping the crowd up and even more getting the players hyped. On holiday for last nights game but back to business on Saturday 👍⚽️💛🖤
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Post by jack283 on Oct 23, 2019 21:12:39 GMT
3 points of the relegation places.6 points of the top six,and Wimbledon at home, following on from the Fleetwood collapse,it was a big night for the club. With a 3 sided ground the match seemed low profile ,when in fact the shape of the season was the next 90 minutes. with 3 matches in one week,and the game on ifollow we scrapped 2-000. Faith was given to the team ,with few changes. The crowd was tense and the longer the game went on,with only having a i goal lead,the tension rose. Where was the drummer who rallied the fans,at Fleetwood,and announced our presence, We needed to break the tension,we needed the team to know,that Amott stand,were behind them,and our young fans,had a focal point ,where was the drummer boy, 5 minutes of extra time flew by,so we must have handled it well,but with so much at stake every body had a huge sigh of relieve,when the final whistle blew.,any body know why the drummer seems missing at home games. Wow. Great comment mate, slagging off one person for the atmosphere. How about you do something about it rather than moaning at a 15 year old who can actually be bothered to drum and try to get the atmosphere going. Unlike some who would sit there in silence then moan there’s no atmosphere. Familiar?
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Post by trevor1946 on Oct 24, 2019 10:35:37 GMT
Excuse me mate, i was asking and making comments of how i felt the drummer makes a big difference,and can be a rallying cry for our fans, Slagging off wash your mouth out, any body reading my post,will come to the conclusion that he was missed.and thank you nickibird give my best wishes to him,. My concern was someone had complained about the noise,and he was banned from home games. We need his drive and spirit, Warning tho Hoggy the Blackpool drummer has a new skin bought by the new owner. you might have competition. because i cannot attend away matches Fleetwood was a real treat,and i was impressed by the drummer and the away supporters. The team ==no comment, Thank you once more for letting me know more about him, He is appreciated
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Post by fergo on Oct 24, 2019 15:14:52 GMT
3 points of the relegation places.6 points of the top six,and Wimbledon at home, following on from the Fleetwood collapse,it was a big night for the club. With a 3 sided ground the match seemed low profile ,when in fact the shape of the season was the next 90 minutes. with 3 matches in one week,and the game on ifollow we scrapped 2-000. Faith was given to the team ,with few changes. The crowd was tense and the longer the game went on,with only having a i goal lead,the tension rose. Where was the drummer who rallied the fans,at Fleetwood,and announced our presence, We needed to break the tension,we needed the team to know,that Amott stand,were behind them,and our young fans,had a focal point ,where was the drummer boy, 5 minutes of extra time flew by,so we must have handled it well,but with so much at stake every body had a huge sigh of relieve,when the final whistle blew.,any body know why the drummer seems missing at home games. Wow. Great comment mate, slagging off one person for the atmosphere. How about you do something about it rather than moaning at a 15 year old who can actually be bothered to drum and try to get the atmosphere going. Unlike some who would sit there in silence then moan there’s no atmosphere. Familiar? Are you Royston in disguise!
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Post by colstoncrawford on Oct 24, 2019 18:04:46 GMT
It was interesting last night on the terraces, talking to a few regulars as to why the gates are so low. Here are a number of suggestions/reasons given to me:- Poor and deteriorating coverage in the local press - a lack of coverage and in-depth articles on all things BAFC. Thoughts please, folks - and here's to Saturday v Blackpool. I'd like to offer my thoughts on one particular point, the one above. I've recently returned to writing about the Brewers (previously for the Derby Telegraph, now for the Burton Mail alongside its sister paper, the Telegraph). I can take criticism, I have a thick skin and I've been around in this job a ridiculously long time, but I will respond if something's simply not true and the above, claiming a lack of coverage, is not true. My predecessor, Josh Murray, wrote extensive match reports, match previews and in-depth articles on the Brewers. So did the guys who went before him. Since I've come back to it, I've tried hard to provide a similar depth of coverage, trying to find a new slant on the regular news coming out of the club. I've not in the last two weeks, as I've been on holiday. But, overall, it's a fact that the Mail publishes more words about the club every day than it did 15 years ago. Links to almost all of the coverage and in-depth articles have been posted on this forum and in other places in the last month. Those links are still there.
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Post by brewersinramland on Oct 25, 2019 6:07:31 GMT
Colston, I think the great majority of us recognise that you are doing a good job on supporting the team.
Is it time for an article that looks at the attendance issue? We've moved on so much from our non-league days but we're stymied by the lack of support. The gaps on Tuesday evening were awful for a team playing good football in a town the size of Burton. I suspect there are only 1500 supporters from Burton itself if you take out those who travel from outside. That would be very poor.
I recognise the club has done great work in the community but it seems not to have transferred into support at matches. Could the club improve its marketing and communications with existing and potential supporters? I think so, but perhaps the club has plans going forward.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Oct 25, 2019 9:40:50 GMT
Colston, I think the great majority of us recognise that you are doing a good job on supporting the team. Is it time for an article that looks at the attendance issue? We've moved on so much from our non-league days but we're stymied by the lack of support. The gaps on Tuesday evening were awful for a team playing good football in a town the size of Burton. I suspect there are only 1500 supporters from Burton itself if you take out those who travel from outside. That would be very poor. I recognise the club has done great work in the community but it seems not to have transferred into support at matches. Could the club improve its marketing and communications with existing and potential supporters? I think so, but perhaps the club has plans going forward. To be honest, we can't keep on writing about the attendance issue. The issue's been addressed recently in several stories with both Ben and Nigel (links still available). I agree (and had the opinion before he said it) with Nigel that it's simply a matter of patience. It takes generations to turn people's thinking when we were a non-league club for all but the last 10 years and people who wanted to follow "league" football had other options. This is not aimed at you, brewersinramland, but sometimes, I wonder just how much people need to be spoon-fed. One poster commented that they "hardly knew a game was on" with regard to Wimbledon. That's nonsense. There's a website, there's a Facebook page, there's a twitter account and, above all else, there's a fixture list! If someone purports to be a fan of the club, how do they NOT know there's a game on? Someone takes the trouble to register on this forum, log in, make a comment.... but doesn't know we're playing? Bizarre.
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Post by brewersinramland on Oct 25, 2019 10:25:32 GMT
Colston, I think the great majority of us recognise that you are doing a good job on supporting the team. Is it time for an article that looks at the attendance issue? We've moved on so much from our non-league days but we're stymied by the lack of support. The gaps on Tuesday evening were awful for a team playing good football in a town the size of Burton. I suspect there are only 1500 supporters from Burton itself if you take out those who travel from outside. That would be very poor. I recognise the club has done great work in the community but it seems not to have transferred into support at matches. Could the club improve its marketing and communications with existing and potential supporters? I think so, but perhaps the club has plans going forward. To be honest, we can't keep on writing about the attendance issue. The issue's been addressed recently in several stories with both Ben and Nigel (links still available). I agree (and had the opinion before he said it) with Nigel that it's simply a matter of patience. It takes generations to turn people's thinking when we were a non-league club for all but the last 10 years and people who wanted to follow "league" football had other options. This is not aimed at you, brewersinramland, but sometimes, I wonder just how much people need to be spoon-fed. One poster commented that they "hardly knew a game was on" with regard to Wimbledon. That's nonsense. There's a website, there's a Facebook page, there's a twitter account and, above all else, there's a fixture list! If someone purports to be a fan of the club, how do they NOT know there's a game on? Someone takes the trouble to register on this forum, log in, make a comment.... but doesn't know we're playing? Bizarre. I agree with your latte points but I don't agree that the issue has been addressed. It's been acknowledged repeatedly but other than 'its just the way it is we have to be patient' there seems to be an unwillingness to look for solutions. We have a ticket system from the dark ages, we have no recognition that people travel distances to get to home matches and we rely on existing fans to gather new attendees.
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