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Post by broomo on Oct 21, 2019 20:05:27 GMT
I've watched their highlights.
So far every time I've posted those words, we've ended up conceding goals and losing games.
Anyone want to know who to look out for in this one or should I keep it zipped ;-)
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Post by brewersinramland on Oct 22, 2019 11:11:56 GMT
Dear Nigel,
Tell the lads it's a cup game.
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Post by trevor1946 on Oct 22, 2019 11:29:20 GMT
Well like you broomo i am interested in the game tonight like Tranmere=Fleetwood these are games to be won,and i am beginning to think we are losing the physical battle. Clough stated playing pretty football and losing 4-1 leaves a sour taste .We dont have many clubs smaller than us and we need to compete, and then hope a touch of class can win the game.. Wimbledon average 4-300 fans in a ground that only holds 4-850,their playing staff brought together on a shoe string budget and have sacked the manager for misconduct. Meanwhile they are on a roll the latest victim Portsmouth fc. This will be a difficult game for the brewers,at a time when they need to get Fleetwood out of their system, With a a small crowd this game will be a real test,and they will need the fans. it is games like this that pass under the radar. Hard to judge, but with a rocket from Nigel perhaps a narrow win. you have to look hard to notice their is a game on.
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Post by trentbridge on Oct 22, 2019 11:46:22 GMT
Too true.
Go online at the fast-fading, yet once so informative, Burton Mail and you find no mention of a game tonight. In fact, you'll find no mention of the game last Saturday at Fleetwood, neither the result or a match report. But, should you wish to wallow in the fine win at MK Dons of nearly three weeks ago, you'll find everything you need.
Chairman Ben Robinson has valid reasons to bemoan a lack of support at matches, yet if the local paper cannot mention a game tonight, many will have no idea there is one. Will they even send a reporter? Radio Derby is little better, with Albion post-match material on a Saturday squeezed in between the weekly Ramage Moan and the excuses rolled out again by Curtis Davies.
We are a League One club. A small League One club, yes, but one that deserves better media coverage locally. I'll be there stnading with my friends again tonight, but I expect a poor crowd unfortunately.
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Post by britty on Oct 22, 2019 14:55:19 GMT
Too true. Go online at the fast-fading, yet once so informative, Burton Mail and you find no mention of a game tonight. In fact, you'll find no mention of the game last Saturday at Fleetwood, neither the result or a match report. But, should you wish to wallow in the fine win at MK Dons of nearly three weeks ago, you'll find everything you need. Chairman Ben Robinson has valid reasons to bemoan a lack of support at matches, yet if the local paper cannot mention a game tonight, many will have no idea there is one. Will they even send a reporter? Radio Derby is little better, with Albion post-match material on a Saturday squeezed in between the weekly Ramage Moan and the excuses rolled out again by Curtis Davies. We are a League One club. A small League One club, yes, but one that deserves better media coverage locally. I'll be there stnading with my friends again tonight, but I expect a poor crowd unfortunately. The club could do more as well. For example i'm amazed that it is tweeting that it is on ifollow tonight and not tweeting it is dead easy to rock up and pay cash on the turnstiles. I do question our PR/marketing team/individual at times
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Post by broomo on Oct 22, 2019 17:37:07 GMT
Too true. Go online at the fast-fading, yet once so informative, Burton Mail and you find no mention of a game tonight. In fact, you'll find no mention of the game last Saturday at Fleetwood, neither the result or a match report. But, should you wish to wallow in the fine win at MK Dons of nearly three weeks ago, you'll find everything you need. Chairman Ben Robinson has valid reasons to bemoan a lack of support at matches, yet if the local paper cannot mention a game tonight, many will have no idea there is one. Will they even send a reporter? Radio Derby is little better, with Albion post-match material on a Saturday squeezed in between the weekly Ramage Moan and the excuses rolled out again by Curtis Davies. We are a League One club. A small League One club, yes, but one that deserves better media coverage locally. I'll be there stnading with my friends again tonight, but I expect a poor crowd unfortunately. The club could do more as well. For example i'm amazed that it is tweeting that it is on ifollow tonight and not tweeting it is dead easy to rock up and pay cash on the turnstiles. I do question our PR/marketing team/individual at times Thanks for posting that britty. I had NO idea it was on ifollow. The marketing/ticket office really need to start thinking and promoting games a lot louder than they currently do.
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Post by broomo on Oct 22, 2019 19:39:20 GMT
Good half, we've been incredibly dominant and probably should have had another. Great to see Temps get a goal but for me he's got to square the chance before. It such a tight angle and both Edwards and Broadhead were square. If I was hyper critical I'd say our left hand side has been slightly wasteful.
What a ball from Wallace who has looked very good.
Heart in the mouth moment as I'm not convinced Temps didn't just clip their lad bursting through. I'd need to see it again.
We could do with a second sharpish just to kill them off.
Nartey has been immaculate, the lad is incredibly composed.
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 22, 2019 21:33:48 GMT
For me a good performance and pleasing win. 14 hero’s out there tonight and not far short of being that really good team. Yes a pathetically small crowd as predicted and I do feel so sorry for Nigel and Ben - it must be a real kick in the teeth. But I do agree that the marketing and promotion of games is largely amateurish. Embarrassing to hear the terribly poor attendance read out quite frankly.
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Post by annable on Oct 22, 2019 21:49:52 GMT
Hard to be critical after a win but it probably sums up where we are at the moment that we only won that game 1-0. Nigel talked about being clinical at the weekend and really if we have beaten a very limited Wimbledon side five or six then they could have had no complaints. The issue I have is that, as undeserved as it would have been, they could have easily gotten a goal at the end with several uncontested crosses being slung into our box that only needed a touch and that would have been two points dropped. Fair play to Nartey especially who got several crucial headers in to stop their big lads nodding one in.
We have said before that some of our passing and moving is exceptional for this level but as Nigel said after the game our goals to chances created ratio must be amongst the lowest in the league. Radio Derby tried to make the point that it is great that we are spreading the goals around(10 different scorers so far) but my response to that is that the chances spurned are also being spread around as well! How Broadhead missed that one in the second half is beyond me and he should have scored 3 or 4 tonight. Looks a talent but if he does not get double figures at least this season it will be a failure for somebody of his talent.
Sorry to sound a bit negative but really if we are to make progress this season we should be hammering teams like Wimbledon. How the hell they have won three on the trot is beyond me!
Onto Saturday where if we can play well and take our chances(big if!) then we can get another three points and move into the top half.
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Post by britty on Oct 22, 2019 22:04:14 GMT
Overall we deserved the 3 points tonight. The last 5 or 10 minutes aside, we controlled the game and should have been comfortably in front by then. I guess tonight is a good example as to why we are a playoff team at best - a very good league one side would have scored a handful tonight. We were not clinical enough in front of goal.
I don't like to be critical if players but tonight was a game where a very good league 1 striker would have scored a brace - unfortunately Boyce showed again that he is not the player that we thought he would be. If there is any value left in him we should cash in in January.
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Post by broomo on Oct 22, 2019 22:26:43 GMT
For me a good performance and pleasing win. 14 hero’s out there tonight and not far short of being that really good team. Yes a pathetically small crowd as predicted and I do feel so sorry for Nigel and Ben - it must be a real kick in the teeth. But I do agree that the marketing and promotion of games is largely amateurish. Embarrassing to hear the terribly poor attendance read out quite frankly. Something isn't quite right with our social media presence and marketing. We've got 72.6 THOUSAND followers on twitter (how on earth?) and 25 THOUSAND on facebook. Yet the twitter posts get less likes than my posts on here when I'm "bullying" a troll. It really is time the club calculated the base cost of giving away a free pie OR a free pint (or soup/coffee) to EVERY HOME fan who turns up to the next low profile game, whether that\s buying in advance/season ticket holders OR show up on the day. Stick that on twitter. Maybe something like for every 500 fans over 2,000 we'll give away 50 tickers for the next home game plus 2 season tickets for next season? Stick that on twitter. Something/Anything. it's getting beyond a joke. I'm genuinely sorry I'm posting like this when I'm unable to get to games myself but it's for very good reasons and it honestly breaks my heart to see this team with their quality playing in front of so few.
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Post by brewersinramland on Oct 22, 2019 22:28:13 GMT
Overall we deserved the 3 points tonight. The last 5 or 10 minutes aside, we controlled the game and should have been comfortably in front by then. I guess tonight is a good example as to why we are a playoff team at best - a very good league one side would have scored a handful tonight. We were not clinical enough in front of goal. I don't like to be critical if players but tonight was a game where a very good league 1 striker would have scored a brace - unfortunately Boyce showed again that he is not the player that we thought he would be. If there is any value left in him we should cash in in January. Exactly our discussion on the way back to the car. What disappoints me the most is that we have the quality to easily be a play off team but I suspect we'll leave it too late to iron out the inconsistency, the failure to convert chances and silly fouls on the edge of our penalty area. We really are missing Quinn. The attendance is shocking. The town and the club need to think as to why it's happening. My feeling is that only about 1500 people are coming from within Burton. That's non-league.
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Post by broomo on Oct 22, 2019 23:05:11 GMT
It's as simple as this.
Only 3 sides have conceded less goals than us so far.
15 (FIFTEEN) have scored more goals and there's no way on gods green earth fifteen sides have been better than us going forward.
We really need someone to step up and nail that top scorers spot, it's great having 10 outfield players scoring already but not so good when you consider we've only got 16 league goals in 12 games. We cannot keep missing the chances we're missing. They're not even half chances, they are glaring misses. Boyce clean through, Broadhead 6 yards out. Temps not squaring it for a tap in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 23:14:13 GMT
Watching football for me becomes a bit of a habit.
I love the summer, I break the habit and do other things.
The season comes around too quickly in August.
But once I get into it, every other Saturdsy we are at home, plus the odd Tuesday night. I can't wait.
The first two tickets I took out of my season ticket wallet tonight were Bury at home and Bolton at home.
The last home League game was 38 days ago.
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 23, 2019 2:59:40 GMT
Watching football for me becomes a bit of a habit. I love the summer, I break the habit and do other things. The season comes around too quickly in August. But once I get into it, every other Saturdsy we are at home, plus the odd Tuesday night. I can't wait. The first two tickets I took out of my season ticket wallet tonight were Bury at home and Bolton at home. The last home League game was 38 days ago. And still we only attracted just over 2000 home fans, truly shocking. And we have already had 3 league teams fall by the wayside for the same reasons, albeit more than a century ago.
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Post by NobodyGood on Oct 23, 2019 5:37:53 GMT
I barely knew we had a game last night... The only time I start to see media is on the day of the game.
They should be trying to build up to each home game a few days beforehand at least...
I couldn't make it last night as I have a crap office job that seems to frown upon me leaving at a reasonable hour!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 6:41:36 GMT
Watching football for me becomes a bit of a habit. I love the summer, I break the habit and do other things. The season comes around too quickly in August. But once I get into it, every other Saturdsy we are at home, plus the odd Tuesday night. I can't wait. The first two tickets I took out of my season ticket wallet tonight were Bury at home and Bolton at home. The last home League game was 38 days ago. And still we only attracted just over 2000 home fans, truly shocking. And we have already had 3 league teams fall by the wayside for the same reasons, albeit more than a century ago. My point though Mikey (badly put) was that the habit has been broken. I have been used to doing other things. I had no interest last night before the game. After it I am looking forward to Saturday. In addition as I said on the thread re the Leicester arrangements, which group of fans were pissed off by the threat of the home end being given up? In the main, the regulars, the season ticket holders. It was a massive own goal in my view.
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Post by mikeyboy on Oct 23, 2019 7:03:47 GMT
I was the same Ian. You do ‘get out of the habit’ - it’s a good point. Also Trentbridge’s point about the Burton Mail is a good one. I guess Colston is away.
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Post by trentbridge on Oct 23, 2019 7:08:35 GMT
It was interesting last night on the terraces, talking to a few regulars as to why the gates are so low. Here are a number of suggestions/reasons given to me:-
The club do not operate a Supporters Club (staggering to think really, given where the club have come from over the past 20 years) No Fans Forums (the manager has not had an open forum with supporters for over 3 years - and fans have little connection with the club) Failure of the Family Section (not pushed enough by the club, no price packages offered) Supporter Liason Group (waste of time it was said - football club didn't even allow them to hold meetings at the ground, and didn't take up suggestions made - no surprise scrapped) The £2 price increase on day-of-purchase match tickets (other clubs may do this, but it doesn't mean this is right) No pre-match activities actually on the pitch - no reason to get there early - a loss of bar/food sales maybe. Poor and deteriorating coverage in the local press - a lack of coverage and in-depth articles on all things BAFC.
These are just some of the views of people stood near me. We all agreed that the team are trying to play good football under tight financial restraints - just think what another 1000 people on the gate would make to club finances. It could make all the difference, especially if we could make a big-push in the January transfer window.
Thoughts please, folks - and here's to Saturday v Blackpool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 7:21:44 GMT
It was interesting last night on the terraces, talking to a few regulars as to why the gates are so low. Here are a number of suggestions/reasons given to me:- The club do not operate a Supporters Club (staggering to think really, given where the club have come from over the past 20 years) No Fans Forums (the manager has not had an open forum with supporters for over 3 years - and fans have little connection with the club) Failure of the Family Section (not pushed enough by the club, no price packages offered) Supporter Liason Group (waste of time it was said - football club didn't even allow them to hold meetings at the ground, and didn't take up suggestions made - no surprise scrapped) The £2 price increase on day-of-purchase match tickets (other clubs may do this, but it doesn't mean this is right) No pre-match activities actually on the pitch - no reason to get there early - a loss of bar/food sales maybe. Poor and deteriorating coverage in the local press - a lack of coverage and in-depth articles on all things BAFC. These are just some of the views of people stood near me. We all agreed that the team are trying to play good football under tight financial restraints - just think what another 1000 people on the gate would make to club finances. It could make all the difference, especially if we could make a big-push in the January transfer window. Thoughts please, folks - and here's to Saturday v Blackpool. I agree with much of that trentbridge. If I can just take up the point about the SLG. Much of the stuff put forward by the SLG was taken up by the club. I made a list once, there was loads of stuff. And we did meet with the club at the ground, not as often as some on the SLG wanted, but we also wanted to be independent. In my opinion, the vision I had for the SLG was not shared by the club and it died because the club wanted to move into a different direction. A fans forum this autumn was the way the club wanted to go, to broaden the views.
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