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Post by claymillman on Aug 23, 2015 10:35:51 GMT
I was a bit surprised how upset Jimmy was at his immediate end of game interview. I had noticed in the first half he was not too pleased with aspects of our play. He was very verbal and active, and it was rather obvious whenever I watched him. In the second half he said we were even worse, and I think this was due to the way we allowed Peterborough back into the game with only ten men. This was very understandable because we allowed them to do to us what we had previously done to Southend and Cambridge. Also we have so far conceded two home goals at home, and both times against ten men. Overall I personally really enjoyed the game, but I know that our two managers are far more into the absolute detail of every movement and decision going on all over the pitch. I respect his opinions completely, and his criticism of our team after a win frankly makes me respect him even more. It shows that performance really does matter. I'm sure the players will also be just as respectful of his comments, as they are with any comments he has made about performances before. If I were to say anything in the teams defense it would be the game schedule is very demanding at the moment with two games every week, but the same applies to our opponents.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 11:01:24 GMT
Yes, 5 games in 15 days (with mostly the same players) to start the season is tough and it showed in the last 20-25 minutes. But as you say every team is in the same situation.
I thought it was a good game yesterday and would have been disappointed with a point. But Jimmy said certain players had played themselves out of the team. Speculating on who that could be... - Beavon, subbed at 60 mins for Matty - Nasser, when he was subbed there was no acknowledge to the fans cheering him, head down and straight to the bench. - Duffy, he wasn't as lively as usual but Jimmy didn't sub him - Jono, booked for time wasting - Phil, he was noticeably limping so could have picked up an injury (thats not playing yourself out though) as he wasn't up and down the wing as usual.
I thought Robbie and Tommy were sound again in the middle and Tommy got MOTM so can't see it being them.
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Post by NobodyGood on Aug 23, 2015 11:58:57 GMT
I wasn't there. Were we pressing them throughout? When I watched us against Derby if we didn't press it really really wound him up.
I think that's what he expects.
Unfortunately expecting wholesale changes against Middlesbrough as I feel the cup may be too much to handle with the league too...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 12:30:15 GMT
The league is our priority, the Capitol one cup is of medium interest. We have plenty of squad players needing game time, I think we will field quite a few against Middlesbrough as we did at Bolton, quite frankly some looked out on there feet late on yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 12:45:40 GMT
Some good points above, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of the Callums started on Tuesday. Agree about Phil, but we have no obvious cover at the moment.
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Post by ashwilkinsonbm on Aug 23, 2015 12:46:45 GMT
Yes, 5 games in 15 days (with mostly the same players) to start the season is tough and it showed in the last 20-25 minutes. But as you say every team is in the same situation. I thought it was a good game yesterday and would have been disappointed with a point. But Jimmy said certain players had played themselves out of the team. Speculating on who that could be... - Beavon, subbed at 60 mins for Matty - Nasser, when he was subbed there was no acknowledge to the fans cheering him, head down and straight to the bench. - Duffy, he wasn't as lively as usual but Jimmy didn't sub him - Jono, booked for time wasting - Phil, he was noticeably limping so could have picked up an injury (thats not playing yourself out though) as he wasn't up and down the wing as usual. I thought Robbie and Tommy were sound again in the middle and Tommy got MOTM so can't see it being them. Just to clear up on Beavon. JFH told me post-match he had been ill. If you watch the highlights, right as Zakuani gets sent off, you can see Bevs shake his head at the bench. Just my opinion but I felt he and Naylor were our best players on the day. Nasser is an interesting one. Get the feeling he was more frustrated with his performance than with being substituted (getting 88 minutes, too, surely can't be too unhappy at coming off at that stage). He was dangerous on occasion Nasser, and this applies to Duffy too, but in the main United looked to double up on the wingers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 13:47:32 GMT
Thanks for clearing up the Beavon situation. Cup games are not the priority as tm says, we have players who need games and who need a rest (that was blatently obvious yesterday). I would expect several changes vs Middlesboro even if all players were brilliant yesterday. Phil might get a rest and O'Connor would be the obvious replacement I think he was great there the year before Phil arrived, but Naylor and Butcher can play there as well. It's the Shrews game where we will see who has played themselves out of the team.
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Post by claymillman on Aug 23, 2015 14:42:58 GMT
I don't think too much should be read into the substitutions myself. I also expect quite a few changes for Tuesday, and most of those changes will be for players good enough to play in any game, and perhaps unlucky to be not staring regularly anyway.
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Post by brewersinramland on Aug 23, 2015 14:47:00 GMT
It was a very odd game, and the change at 2-0 and man sent off was remarkable. The JFH interview on the BBC website was to me incredibly powerful and the points he made will surely resonate with the players. 'Burton Albion - we are not arrogant' - one for players and fans alike as we pinch ourselves about our position in League 1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 14:51:09 GMT
Thanks for clearing up the Beavon situation. Cup games are not the priority as tm says, we have players who need games and who need a rest (that was blatently obvious yesterday). I would expect several changes vs Middlesboro even if all players were brilliant yesterday. Phil might get a rest and O'Connor would be the obvious replacement I think he was great there the year before Phil arrived, but Naylor and Butcher can play there as well. It's the Shrews game where we will see who has played themselves out of the team. I agree O'Connor is the most obvious replacement but I do not think he is a natural full back, good luck to him if he plays though.
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Post by colston on Aug 26, 2015 23:44:54 GMT
Reading this only after the Middlesbrough game and there were some smart calls from posters about the potential changes... we perhaps all forgot that Tom Naylor has spent a good bit of his career doing right-back. Jimmy's reaction on Saturday reminded me of Nigel. There were times he absolutely exploded about a performance more because (I'm speculating) he deduced it was time to make a point to the players than because of the performance itself. There were times he slaughtered the team when we (the press, at the time) thought they'd played ok; others when we thought it had been a poor performance, said so, and got told that he totally disagreed... followed by a stare around us, challenging us to back up our opinion. All about psychology... plus, the managers know what's gone on in training and/or the dressing room and we don't. Controversial view, maybe... I thought Moose, great as he is, might just have been one of the subjects of Jimmy's annoyance. Tried to be too clever on the ball a couple of times against Posh and got caught out... bet he doesn't do it at Shrewsbury. Bet he plays.
Given the schedule, the number of changes was fine on Tuesday, I thought. Better still, for all the changes, it still looked a good side and played like one. Strong squad we have :-)
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Post by claymillman on Aug 27, 2015 7:56:49 GMT
I thought Tom Naylor did a first class job at right back. Certainly gives us excellent cover if Phil gets injured. I also agree Mouse did get himself unnecessarily into trouble the odd time. The slight worry I had on Tuesday night was the number of times Robbie Weir caused problems with similar play, although generally he has been superb so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 9:05:49 GMT
Reading this only after the Middlesbrough game and there were some smart calls from posters about the potential changes... we perhaps all forgot that Tom Naylor has spent a good bit of his career doing right-back. Jimmy's reaction on Saturday reminded me of Nigel. There were times he absolutely exploded about a performance more because (I'm speculating) he deduced it was time to make a point to the players than because of the performance itself. There were times he slaughtered the team when we (the press, at the time) thought they'd played ok; others when we thought it had been a poor performance, said so, and got told that he totally disagreed... followed by a stare around us, challenging us to back up our opinion. All about psychology... plus, the managers know what's gone on in training and/or the dressing room and we don't. Controversial view, maybe... I thought Moose, great as he is, might just have been one of the subjects of Jimmy's annoyance. Tried to be too clever on the ball a couple of times against Posh and got caught out... bet he doesn't do it at Shrewsbury. Bet he plays. Given the schedule, the number of changes was fine on Tuesday, I thought. Better still, for all the changes, it still looked a good side and played like one. Strong squad we have :-) It is interesting you make that comparison with Clough, because I was scratching my head on Saturday evening after hearing JFH's comments. I thought we did ok against Peterborough for most of the game. I enjoyed it again and thought we were well worth the 2-0 lead. So to hear the boss describe it as 'rubbish' was surprising. I agree that after the sending off we didn't play so well and a draw would probably have been a reasonable outcome (I would be spitting if I were a Posh fan after that 'goal' was disallowed). I also recall the same kind of reaction from Clough in the past, of course I was not there to receive the Clough stare, as you and other used to, but I can imagine it. I think JFH is very clever, and the one thing I think he is guarding against is that over confidence, cockiness, arrogance that you can get from teams with a winning habit. Maybe we didn't develop that last season as the prize at the end of the season was so obvious. Fine management so far IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 9:21:29 GMT
Reading this only after the Middlesbrough game and there were some smart calls from posters about the potential changes... we perhaps all forgot that Tom Naylor has spent a good bit of his career doing right-back. Jimmy's reaction on Saturday reminded me of Nigel. There were times he absolutely exploded about a performance more because (I'm speculating) he deduced it was time to make a point to the players than because of the performance itself. There were times he slaughtered the team when we (the press, at the time) thought they'd played ok; others when we thought it had been a poor performance, said so, and got told that he totally disagreed... followed by a stare around us, challenging us to back up our opinion. All about psychology... plus, the managers know what's gone on in training and/or the dressing room and we don't. Controversial view, maybe... I thought Moose, great as he is, might just have been one of the subjects of Jimmy's annoyance. Tried to be too clever on the ball a couple of times against Posh and got caught out... bet he doesn't do it at Shrewsbury. Bet he plays. Given the schedule, the number of changes was fine on Tuesday, I thought. Better still, for all the changes, it still looked a good side and played like one. Strong squad we have :-) Yeah, I had mentioned Naylor at RB further up this thread, he spent most of his time at Derby playing there. I do think though that in a league game if Phil was out Ant would play RB and keep Naylor in with Robbie (just my speculating opinion ) Re: "it was time to make a point", not controversial at all imo. I thought the same thing, managers cannot be bright and rosy 24/7 and they should find a time to vent their frustations, and use psychology to push the players. fortunately Jimmy hasn't had very many necessary opportunities to do so.
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