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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 13:15:56 GMT
Prices fixed until 14th Aug I think, although I have not had time to read thoroughly.
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Post by emnez on Jul 13, 2020 14:04:28 GMT
Prices fixed until 14th Aug I think, although I have not had time to read thoroughly. Yes you are correct Ian. I think that is a little bit early to have a deadline for early bird takers Ian going on we don't know when fans will be allowed in to grounds.
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Post by riverman on Jul 13, 2020 14:19:02 GMT
They are offering free I-player coverage for home matches to season ticket holders and are in discussions regarding away matches. Not all that attractive financially if only home matches since it usually only costs £10 a time to watch on I-player. No refund for this season either although they will consider claims. Still I won't complain about lack of refund and will probably shell out for a season ticket as a contribution to keeping the club solvent.
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Post by annable on Jul 13, 2020 16:50:46 GMT
To me this looks like a reasonable offer. Renewal price reduced which presumably take into account the missed games this season which for me is fair enough. I accept that some people would prefer cash dependent on circumstances and the club appear prepared to listen on a case by case basis is how I'm reading it.
I for one will be renewing and would urge everybody else to do so, circumstances permitting clearly, so we can get some much needed funds into the coffers so the club can start rebuilding.
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Post by superbrewer on Jul 13, 2020 17:18:47 GMT
The problem I see is that the club not giving people refunds for the games that were not played .Fans will not bother renewing their season ticket , so not putting money into club , and they may not even bother coming to watch on a match to match basis .So even less money will come into the club . It is a difficult situation for the club . Personally , I am a season ticket holder and will renew , but probably not until close to the deadline .
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Post by bennyboy on Jul 13, 2020 17:30:39 GMT
I want to buy my season ticket but I also want to know when we'll be back. Let's say some will have rearranged holidays or even have to work, they play matches for TV coverage at stupid o'clock like now. Don't really want to watch on the telly, I've be turning off the stuff that's been broadcast with fake fan noise. Besides how can BAFC and such clubs survive without actually having fans in the ground spending money?
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Post by bennyboy on Jul 13, 2020 17:33:58 GMT
Prices fixed until 14th Aug I think, although I have not had time to read thoroughly. Yes you are correct Ian. I think that is a little bit early to have a deadline for early bird takers Ian going on we don't know when fans will be allowed in to grounds. Where is this published?
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Post by emnez on Jul 13, 2020 17:39:22 GMT
The problem I see is that the club not giving people refunds for the games that were not played .Fans will not bother renewing their season ticket , so not putting money into club , and they may not even bother coming to watch on a match to match basis .So even less money will come into the club . It is a difficult situation for the club . Personally , I am a season ticket holder and will renew , but probably not until close to the deadline . Miracles do happen but i can't see fans being allowed in to stadiums this side of christmas. Families on tight budgets won't entertain buying a season ticket when it's unlikely they will get admission to the ground. Also on the refund criteria can't see folk doing a means test to get money they are entitled to. I just wish Ben had not mentioned the clause that season ticket holders were not entitled to a refund going on what a terrible time we all have had with this rotten disease. Many of us will of course not bother about losing the money but a good few will but they won't go cap in hand to claim it back.
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Post by superbrewer on Jul 13, 2020 17:41:21 GMT
It's in an email sent to season ticket holders and I would assume on the clubs website , although I havn't looked on there yet .
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Post by bennyboy on Jul 13, 2020 17:58:12 GMT
It's in an email sent to season ticket holders and I would assume on the clubs website , although I havn't looked on there yet .
Nothing on the official BAFC site nor their Facebook page.
I don't get emails, asked them why and they confirmed they had my email address correct and they don't know why either, so I gave up on that one.
I guess it's a phone call or shop visit when open again.
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Post by WestEnder on Jul 13, 2020 22:28:39 GMT
Didn’t have a season ticket last season so haven’t received the email so not sure on exactly what’s been said but I’d be very surprised if many people would be willing to spend out on a season ticket when there’s no guarantee we’ll be able to attend games yet.
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Post by Brewer46 on Jul 13, 2020 22:54:49 GMT
All season ticket holders were sent an email this morning.
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Post by phil on Jul 14, 2020 5:58:57 GMT
I am a season ticket holder but every year without fail I don't receive e mails. I have checked with the shop in the past and they have my correct email address.
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Post by annable on Jul 14, 2020 7:27:12 GMT
Just been reading the response on Facebook to the club announcement yesterday regarding season tickets and I would imagine it makes for fairly depressing reading for Ben Robinson and his team. Over 120+ comments as of last night where the majority seem to be negative with people saying they are not renewing and are disgusted at not getting any money back etc. etc.
There seems to be a lack of understanding from many that the club just doesn't have the money to do large scale refunds given that its income has reduced to around zero and I guess we are just relying on the chairman's personal generosity to cover the remaining costs we have. The announcements regarding season tickets for next year I would imagine is a plea to its fan base to pay money to the club, at a reduced level from last year I might add, that might help it keep going in the short term. I get that the communication from the club could have been better but we have always been a bit non league in that respect so there is nothing new there.
In my opinion the town of Burton on Trent barely deserves to have a football team playing at the level it is given the lack of public support in the last few years. I would imagine that Ben, at 76 years old, must feel like packing it all in given the constant negative reaction from lots of so called fans. If I were him I would refund everybody for the games they missed including Bury add a bit of interest on for good measure and then just slash the playing budget for next season. Then watch us plummet back down the leagues where we would probably to struggle to survive in the National League but I guess if he did that he would still have the same old moaners whinging about that.
I do understand that everybody's personal circumstances are different and we are in very challenging times but all Ben is trying to do is make sure we have a club to support when things return to normality and for that he should be shown more respect that he is currently getting from some.
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Post by trentbridge on Jul 14, 2020 7:59:33 GMT
I have had my e-mail. I am also disgusted. If you pay for an event, be it a football match, concert, day at the races or whatever, and that event does not take place a refund is given. Simple. Season ticket holders have already put their money into the club in advance for matches that have not been fulfilled. Why would anyone in their right mind renew again? This is a dreadful PR from the club, and there will be so few at matches in the future that social distancing will not need to be enforced.
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Post by insideleft on Jul 14, 2020 9:18:41 GMT
I've no strong views either way.
The email does go on to explain that prices are being held (or reduced I think) to take into account the missed games last season. I can't recall what I paid last season but I'm fairly certain my price is cheaper than last season.
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Post by emnez on Jul 14, 2020 9:35:50 GMT
I have had my e-mail. I am also disgusted. If you pay for an event, be it a football match, concert, day at the races or whatever, and that event does not take place a refund is given. Simple. Season ticket holders have already put their money into the club in advance for matches that have not been fulfilled. Why would anyone in their right mind renew again? This is a dreadful PR from the club, and there will be so few at matches in the future that social distancing will not need to be enforced. Of course you are correct trentbridge but i would add that i would of offered all season ticket holders a refund in an email and asked if they wished to donate some of it to the club to let them know by a certain date then all would be happy. The email was not very well put together and i can understand folk being miffed because being realistic there are alot of families need the rebate not just in covid but in normal everyday life. We are now entering dangerous times for the future of our club and Ben needs to do something quickly before things get out of hand.
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Post by everard on Jul 14, 2020 11:15:47 GMT
I too think Ben has misjudged this somewhat.... .....Not the best way to engender a good relationship with your core fans... to say to them "Read the small print and it says the Club doesn't have to refund any season ticket money for cancelled games.......so we won't" .... unless you turn up on the doorstep, weighing 5 stone, with an eviction notice, 12 kids in tow, each with a begging bowl - then we might consider it on the grounds of mitigating circumstances... It might have been better if he'd said "you can all have your money back if you want it (pro-rata for the games cancelled) but, as the Club, like many others, is in dire straits, if you are able to forego the refund we'd much appreciate it...Thank you.... I reckon 80-90% would not have asked for a penny back..or he could have considered a next season sweetener of some sort....bring-a-friend-for-free to early round cup games or some other gesture that didn't cost much/owt... The real danger apart from straining the goodwill of the core-fans tho is financial....how many season ticket holders will be swelling the BAFC back account in the next four weeks in exchange for immediate renewals for next season's season-tickets.... with so much uncertainty abroad and the prospect of no money back if games are cancelled next season... ?? As things stand we don't know if and when next season will start - tricky I'm sure for the Club to make plans, especially contract signings, when this is the case but if Ben's saying he's not offering refunds for last season what about next? If the season doesn't get going till October, November, December or January 2021....we'll be missing 20% 30% 40% or 50% of the season....paying for 23 home games and getting 18, 15, 13, or 11 games... The same thing might happen if the season starts in August and then there's a second spike/lockdown in the winter and so perhaps no games in December, January, February...again missing up to or more than half the games season-ticket holders have paid for.... Just to make it clear, I'm not unhappy for the Club to keep my 'unused' season ticket money from last season (been nice to have been asked rather than told it's in the small print tho') but as things stand - without some refund guarantee (if say more than 3 or 4 games are cancelled - whatever the discounted season ticket bonus is) then I'm not sure I'll be in a rush to renew for next season.....I'll perhaps go with pay as you play..or might it be pay if you play...?? Tho' I'm sure this is not helpful to the Club and not the outcome Ben wants right now... If the Club makes changes to the small print and guarantees some reasonable refund in the event of prolonged cancellations, I'll be more inclined to renew....(I guess there's still a risk if the club goes bust we'll get nothing back but let's not think about that...it might be a reality but too depressing to contemplate....) Then, as has been proposed before....what about half-season-tickets or payment by instalments....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 17:21:34 GMT
I too think Ben has misjudged this somewhat.... .....Not the best way to engender a good relationship with your core fans... to say to them "Read the small print and it says the Club doesn't have to refund any season ticket money for cancelled games.......so we won't" .... unless you turn up on the doorstep, weighing 5 stone, with an eviction notice, 12 kids in tow, each with a begging bowl - then we might consider it on the grounds of mitigating circumstances... It might have been better if he'd said "you can all have your money back if you want it (pro-rata for the games cancelled) but, as the Club, like many others, is in dire straits, if you are able to forego the refund we'd much appreciate it...Thank you.... I reckon 80-90% would not have asked for a penny back..or he could have considered a next season sweetener of some sort....bring-a-friend-for-free to early round cup games or some other gesture that didn't cost much/owt... The real danger apart from straining the goodwill of the core-fans tho is financial....how many season ticket holders will be swelling the BAFC back account in the next four weeks in exchange for immediate renewals for next season's season-tickets.... with so much uncertainty abroad and the prospect of no money back if games are cancelled next season... ?? As things stand we don't know if and when next season will start - tricky I'm sure for the Club to make plans, especially contract signings, when this is the case but if Ben's saying he's not offering refunds for last season what about next? If the season doesn't get going till October, November, December or January 2021....we'll be missing 20% 30% 40% or 50% of the season....paying for 23 home games and getting 18, 15, 13, or 11 games... The same thing might happen if the season starts in August and then there's a second spike/lockdown in the winter and so perhaps no games in December, January, February...again missing up to or more than half the games season-ticket holders have paid for.... Just to make it clear, I'm not unhappy for the Club to keep my 'unused' season ticket money from last season (been nice to have been asked rather than told it's in the small print tho') but as things stand - without some refund guarantee (if say more than 3 or 4 games are cancelled - whatever the discounted season ticket bonus is) then I'm not sure I'll be in a rush to renew for next season.....I'll perhaps go with pay as you play..or might it be pay if you play...?? Tho' I'm sure this is not helpful to the Club and not the outcome Ben wants right now... If the Club makes changes to the small print and guarantees some reasonable refund in the event of prolonged cancellations, I'll be more inclined to renew....(I guess there's still a risk if the club goes bust we'll get nothing back but let's not think about that...it might be a reality but too depressing to contemplate....) Then, as has been proposed before....what about half-season-tickets or payment by instalments.... I agree with much of that everard, not all but much. I think I will renew, but I will see it as a donation rather than a purchase. If I get to see a game in person, it will be a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2020 17:31:42 GMT
I too think Ben has misjudged this somewhat.... .....Not the best way to engender a good relationship with your core fans... to say to them "Read the small print and it says the Club doesn't have to refund any season ticket money for cancelled games.......so we won't" .... unless you turn up on the doorstep, weighing 5 stone, with an eviction notice, 12 kids in tow, each with a begging bowl - then we might consider it on the grounds of mitigating circumstances... It might have been better if he'd said "you can all have your money back if you want it (pro-rata for the games cancelled) but, as the Club, like many others, is in dire straits, if you are able to forego the refund we'd much appreciate it...Thank you.... I reckon 80-90% would not have asked for a penny back..or he could have considered a next season sweetener of some sort....bring-a-friend-for-free to early round cup games or some other gesture that didn't cost much/owt... The real danger apart from straining the goodwill of the core-fans tho is financial....how many season ticket holders will be swelling the BAFC back account in the next four weeks in exchange for immediate renewals for next season's season-tickets.... with so much uncertainty abroad and the prospect of no money back if games are cancelled next season... ?? As things stand we don't know if and when next season will start - tricky I'm sure for the Club to make plans, especially contract signings, when this is the case but if Ben's saying he's not offering refunds for last season what about next? If the season doesn't get going till October, November, December or January 2021....we'll be missing 20% 30% 40% or 50% of the season....paying for 23 home games and getting 18, 15, 13, or 11 games... The same thing might happen if the season starts in August and then there's a second spike/lockdown in the winter and so perhaps no games in December, January, February...again missing up to or more than half the games season-ticket holders have paid for.... Just to make it clear, I'm not unhappy for the Club to keep my 'unused' season ticket money from last season (been nice to have been asked rather than told it's in the small print tho') but as things stand - without some refund guarantee (if say more than 3 or 4 games are cancelled - whatever the discounted season ticket bonus is) then I'm not sure I'll be in a rush to renew for next season.....I'll perhaps go with pay as you play..or might it be pay if you play...?? Tho' I'm sure this is not helpful to the Club and not the outcome Ben wants right now... If the Club makes changes to the small print and guarantees some reasonable refund in the event of prolonged cancellations, I'll be more inclined to renew....(I guess there's still a risk if the club goes bust we'll get nothing back but let's not think about that...it might be a reality but too depressing to contemplate....) Then, as has been proposed before....what about half-season-tickets or payment by instalments.... I agree with much of that everard, not all, but much. I think I will renew, but I will see it as a donation rather than a purchase. If I get to see a game in person, it will be a bonus.
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