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Post by bobgauden on Mar 7, 2020 14:36:26 GMT
Go a bit deeper with that comment please Trev. We are 100 fans above the lowest attended club in league 1, Total cost of players now £20-000 after 8 seasons Having no Budget to pay comparable wages to clubs, even as low as league 1, or many in league 2 Having a very very limited transfer budget For clubs to progress they have to be successful , Burton have had unlimited success ,getting Championship football with a 6-5 million figure for being in the Championship. Playing with a small capacity of 6-900,without away fans the ground was half empty, and 2-700 at one game,outside of Burton ,was a joke.,and still we had to rely on cup runs to keep quality players, Derby 3 times on sky in one week, our neighbours. Forest another club near to me on sky twice this week, The joy of watching Burton on sky, this SEASON none. At Burton we dont build teams, we take players,, what we can afford on 2-000 gates Derby 26-735==Forest 27-748 with Championship football Burton Have the lowest Championship gate 2-750 So the Championship is clearly out of our league,,and league 1 will be hard to sustain, over time,playing bigger clubs constantly.. Ben Robinson is now well into his 70s, and has achieved more than he ever dreamed of, and Nigel Clough could decide to join the real world of football were paying 10 million for a player to build a team is standard practice Trevor, If and when we eventually find our level which is according to your stats probably back into non league football.... Will you then be content? Do we have to keep reading the same story of how we’re forever punching above our weight like we don’t know and there’s some kind of unfairness against us? We all know it’s an uneven playing field. Me I really enjoy being the underdog and long may it continue.
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Post by trevor1946 on Mar 8, 2020 17:38:22 GMT
Content a strange word in football terms, and looking through my looking glass, yes Burton Albion are. now a league club, Reading the same story , yes because so many forget football is a competition where money makes a big difference, and the term Nigel will be under pressure now, after the Lincoln game, so for many it seems Punching above our weight, Lincoln being a club 3 times our size ,seems irrelevant, and we are frustrated with the performance,and 3 million being spent on defenders would perhaps give us the quality we were lacking. The gate receipts alone would give Lincoln this advantage, Every Burton fan knows it is a unfair playing field. But the Manager will be under pressure ,WHY are you doing another poll. YOU being the underdog, yes it could be time for stirring the pot. When being realistic about the league we are in sinks in, And comparing Mickleover sports with a league club and the cost difference. We can all relax and enjoy some big clubs visiting the Pirelli, and long may it continue,for the hardcore
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Post by bobgauden on Mar 8, 2020 19:49:17 GMT
Content a strange word in football terms, and looking through my looking glass, yes Burton Albion are. now a league club, Reading the same story , yes because so many forget football is a competition where money makes a big difference, and the term Nigel will be under pressure now, after the Lincoln game, so for many it seems Punching above our weight, Lincoln being a club 3 times our size ,seems irrelevant, and we are frustrated with the performance,and 3 million being spent on defenders would perhaps give us the quality we were lacking. The gate receipts alone would give Lincoln this advantage, Every Burton fan knows it is a unfair playing field. But the Manager will be under pressure ,WHY are you doing another poll. YOU being the underdog, yes it could be time for stirring the pot. When being realistic about the league we are in sinks in, And comparing Mickleover sports with a league club and the cost difference. We can all relax and enjoy some big clubs visiting the Pirelli, and long may it continue,for the hardcore Good I’m glad Nigel is under pressure, then he’s no different to any other manager in any business.. Comes with the territory I’m afraid, there’s no comfort zone here. I’ve not done another poll but I could although I suspect it might not be good for the old ticker Trev, such was your hissy fit last time. Probably best not.
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Post by broomo on Mar 8, 2020 20:10:12 GMT
Content a strange word in football terms, and looking through my looking glass, yes Burton Albion are. now a league club, Reading the same story , yes because so many forget football is a competition where money makes a big difference, and the term Nigel will be under pressure now, after the Lincoln game, so for many it seems Punching above our weight, Lincoln being a club 3 times our size ,seems irrelevant, and we are frustrated with the performance,and 3 million being spent on defenders would perhaps give us the quality we were lacking. The gate receipts alone would give Lincoln this advantage, Every Burton fan knows it is a unfair playing field. But the Manager will be under pressure ,WHY are you doing another poll. YOU being the underdog, yes it could be time for stirring the pot. When being realistic about the league we are in sinks in, And comparing Mickleover sports with a league club and the cost difference. We can all relax and enjoy some big clubs visiting the Pirelli, and long may it continue,for the hardcore Good I’m glad Nigel is under pressure, then he’s no different to any other manager in any business.. Comes with the territory I’m afraid, there’s no comfort zone here. I’ve not done another poll but I could although I suspect it might not be good for the old ticker Trev, such was your hissy fit last time. Probably best not. I always wonder what kind of person you need to be to want to come on to a football forum and look to troll people. What do you get out of it bob?
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Post by bobgauden on Mar 8, 2020 21:28:32 GMT
Good I’m glad Nigel is under pressure, then he’s no different to any other manager in any business.. Comes with the territory I’m afraid, there’s no comfort zone here. I’ve not done another poll but I could although I suspect it might not be good for the old ticker Trev, such was your hissy fit last time. Probably best not. I always wonder what kind of person you need to be to want to come on to a football forum and look to troll people. What do you get out of it bob? Nothing I just shoot from the hip. If you don’t like it I won’t lose any sleep. Just a game..
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Post by bartonyellow on Mar 9, 2020 7:05:39 GMT
I've said elsewhere that I can see a slow decline, and the apathy off the pitch may speed this up. I do not believe in the title of "our rightful division is x" as you are where you deserve and we got where we are on merit. We desperately need a fans forum with the chairman where we can discuss ways forward as we have reached a plateau of which I do not think we are capable of pushing on again.
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Post by swaddy Dave on Mar 9, 2020 7:27:51 GMT
I've said elsewhere that I can see a slow decline, and the apathy off the pitch may speed this up. I do not believe in the title of "our rightful division is x" as you are where you deserve and we got where we are on merit. We desperately need a fans forum with the chairman where we can discuss ways forward as we have reached a plateau of which I do not think we are capable of pushing on again. Wasn't there one recently?
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Post by trevor1946 on Mar 9, 2020 12:23:51 GMT
Good I’m glad Nigel is under pressure, then he’s no different to any other manager in any business.. Comes with the territory I’m afraid, there’s no comfort zone here. I’ve not done another poll but I could although I suspect it might not be good for the old ticker Trev, such was your hissy fit last time. Probably best not. I always wonder what kind of person you need to be to want to come on to a football forum and look to troll people. What do you get out of it bob? Harsh bob, i took part in your pathetic poll, where many posters treated it with the contempt it deserved. Glad Clough is under pressure, and your witch hunt on O"Hara is totally out of order. Shooting from the hip, sounds right, you miss so many facts, perhaps i should thank you==no comfort zone at Burton another howler from you. Peski=Rowett=J_F_H=Clough since 1998 , Peski got the sack for bad results , and Rowett left after 2 year, and J_F_H left after 1 year. four Managers since 1998 ==22 years And you ask why i have to repeat the restraints on Burton Albion at this high level, when some people shoot from the hip====and not think. The only territory here is keeping a manager who can cope with having no finances of note.
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Post by bartonyellow on Mar 9, 2020 20:48:46 GMT
I've said elsewhere that I can see a slow decline, and the apathy off the pitch may speed this up. I do not believe in the title of "our rightful division is x" as you are where you deserve and we got where we are on merit. We desperately need a fans forum with the chairman where we can discuss ways forward as we have reached a plateau of which I do not think we are capable of pushing on again. Wasn't there one recently? Pass. If so, someone please enlighten me on the content.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 20:58:58 GMT
Yes there was a forum a few weeks ago.
It replaced the SLG who of course never did anything or suggested anything #sighs.
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Post by broomo on Mar 9, 2020 21:05:47 GMT
Yes there was a forum a few weeks ago. It replaced the SLG who of course never did anything or suggested anything #sighs. Easy to say this as I was rejected from the panel bit I didn't ever feel there were enough people with commercial minds within the committee Ian. The club simply didn't seem to take it seriously enough either. Almost looked and felt like a box ticking exercise. Shame as I know from personal experience there are some brilliant business brains within our fanbase who would jump at the chance of giving their time freely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 21:12:02 GMT
Yes there was a forum a few weeks ago. It replaced the SLG who of course never did anything or suggested anything #sighs. Easy to say this as I was rejected from the panel bit I didn't ever feel there were enough people with commercial minds within the committee Ian. The club simply didn't seem to take it seriously enough either. Almost looked and felt like a box ticking exercise. Shame as I know from personal experience there are some brilliant business brains within our fanbase who would jump at the chance of giving their time freely. Don't disagree at all Broomo, we came up with many, many suggestions and lots were implemented. We were restricted though on what we could discuss in reality and it is fair that we did not have a plethora of marketing experts, albeit, we did have a couple and they did deliver real positive changes on food options, ways of paying for them and the like. When I look back, it is amazing how much the SLG did suggest that was implemented, alas, it died into a sea of cynicism.
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Post by cbh1 on Mar 9, 2020 22:03:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 22:14:10 GMT
Thanks cbh1. An example from the report... "whether pubs and clubs could be involved in terms of advertising matches." That was suggested at the first SLG meeting.
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Post by emnez on Mar 19, 2020 14:16:14 GMT
I always wonder what kind of person you need to be to want to come on to a football forum and look to troll people. What do you get out of it bob? Nothing I just shoot from the hip. If you don’t like it I won’t lose any sleep. Just a game.. I wonder what kind of person you are broomo,if folk on here have different views to you toys fly out your pram.Grow up that's what a football forum is for.
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Post by broomo on Mar 19, 2020 16:01:23 GMT
Nothing I just shoot from the hip. If you don’t like it I won’t lose any sleep. Just a game.. I wonder what kind of person you are broomo,if folk on here have different views to you toys fly out your pram.Grow up that's what a football forum is for. I always love it when people say I throw the toys out of the pram. How can you possibly judge the tone from words alone. All I ever do is ask those who criticise to back up their post. What a football forum is for is to discuss football. It's not to make up bullshit and try to pass it off as fact. If you can't handle being questioned, especially on your bullshit that the directors take too much out at the expense of "loyal" fans. I can guarantee even if you've paid top whack for a season ticket for 30 years, you've put what, 9 grand into the club? I'd say any fan who has been a season ticket holder through the best period in the clubs history, has received decent value for money. I can also guarantee that those involved with the club at director level will have contributed much much more in terms of both cash and time. Yet on your eyes, they're the bad guys ripping off people like you. Get your facts right and you'll never hear a crossed word from me. No coincidence that this toys out of the pram garbage has started with the return of the biggest stirrer on the forum. You're entitled to your views, I'm entitled to mine sunshine. That's what grown ups understand. Still no doubt you'll get two or three likes from bon, Fred and one or two other cheerie souls.
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Post by sleepless on May 19, 2020 7:30:40 GMT
Think we saw the reality back then. Nigel certainly did.
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Post by sinfinbovril on Jun 9, 2020 18:59:15 GMT
Finished the season one position below Ipswich Town.
I'd call that a success.
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Post by insideleft on Jun 10, 2020 18:14:05 GMT
Finished the season one position below Ipswich Town. I'd call that a success. Very much agree Sinfin.
We played some great football and comfortably held our own in a division which Coventry City won, Portsmouth got in the play-offs, Sunderland just missed the play-offs and Bolton Wanderers got relegated.
You probably have to be over 25 years old to appreciate the enormity of that!!
Sadly not appreciated by the irritating few.
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Post by bennyboy on Jun 10, 2020 21:26:20 GMT
I think I'll just revel in the fact that Sunderland missed out and Bolton got what was coming to them.
Apart from that it was a big anticlimax these last few weeks (if that's the correct word) think we all knew it would end this way.
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