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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 22:06:03 GMT
Big Sam has been filmed by undercover reporters in a sting.
All to do with third party payments and how to avoid them
Also filmed slagging off Roy Hodgson
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Post by sinfinbovril on Sept 27, 2016 22:02:13 GMT
If he wasn't England manager, it wouldn't have happened. Shame on you, Telegraph. Who put you up to it? Public interest? Don't make me laugh.
Someone obviously had their knives out. I've no proof but surely most other managers are up to the same thing?
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Post by claymillman on Sept 28, 2016 8:35:50 GMT
If he wasn't England manager, it wouldn't have happened. Shame on you, Telegraph. Who put you up to it? Public interest? Don't make me laugh. Someone obviously had their knives out. I've no proof but surely most other managers are up to the same thing? So if other managers are doing similar activities, does that make it right,or acceptable? You are totally missing the point here. This was about bypassing the rules outlawing third party ownership. I hate entrapment, but if it is needed to get to the truth then so be it. The Telegraph investigation had been ongoing for 10 months,(therefore before Sam was England manager). This morning a spokesman on TV said that third party ownership of players is very hard to stop, because many of the rich new owners of clubs also have third party ownership of players. In other words their money is more wanted than the integrity of the game. FIFA surprise, surprise, have passed the buck on this topic, and yet if it is not tackled at a global level, the FA would not have the guts to stop this problem, because the money would go to other European FAs. This practice is in fact modern slavery. If you are spotted as a promising footballer at a young age in a very poor country, it is easy to sign the young lad up with promises of to him untold wealth and opportunity. If the said lad doesn't make it there is not much lost, if he does make it the owner makes a fortune, and the lad does O. K. For Sam to be allegedly prepared to act as some sort of go between for this type of slavery is totally unacceptable. It shows that greed driven corruption goes throughout the game. It makes me lose all confidence in our wonderful game, and sickens me, I was a big fan of Sam Allerdyce, and this morning feel so badly let down and depressed about football. Apparently there is more to come from the Telegraph this week so be prepared for more shocks to come. |
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Post by dryneck on Sept 28, 2016 12:06:55 GMT
Guilty! Next please.
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Post by sinfinbovril on Sept 28, 2016 18:30:47 GMT
If he wasn't England manager, it wouldn't have happened. Shame on you, Telegraph. Who put you up to it? Public interest? Don't make me laugh. Someone obviously had their knives out. I've no proof but surely most other managers are up to the same thing? So if other managers are doing similar activities, does that make it right,or acceptable? You are totally missing the point here. This was about bypassing the rules outlawing third party ownership. I hate entrapment, but if it is needed to get to the truth then so be it. The Telegraph investigation had been ongoing for 10 months,(therefore before Sam was England manager). This morning a spokesman on TV said that third party ownership of players is very hard to stop, because many of the rich new owners of clubs also have third party ownership of players. In other words their money is more wanted than the integrity of the game. FIFA surprise, surprise, have passed the buck on this topic, and yet if it is not tackled at a global level, the FA would not have the guts to stop this problem, because the money would go to other European FAs. This practice is in fact modern slavery. If you are spotted as a promising footballer at a young age in a very poor country, it is easy to sign the young lad up with promises of to him untold wealth and opportunity. If the said lad doesn't make it there is not much lost, if he does make it the owner makes a fortune, and the lad does O. K. For Sam to be allegedly prepared to act as some sort of go between for this type of slavery is totally unacceptable. It shows that greed driven corruption goes throughout the game. It makes me lose all confidence in our wonderful game, and sickens me, I was a big fan of Sam Allerdyce, and this morning feel so badly let down and depressed about football. Apparently there is more to come from the Telegraph this week so be prepared for more shocks to come.
No it does not make it right. The whole thing sucks. I'm not a fan of the national media for a start - their truth is selective.
I am generalising of course, but football's bent, so is most professional sport. If we got rid of all the scumbags we'd be back to playing Sunday afternoons on the rec.
My point was, why did the Telegraph not try a sting on all 92 managers, plus them from the Conference? Because it would have brought the English game to its knees. There's too much money floating about to play it straight.
Terry Venables had some very dodgy business dealings but he did OK in Euro 96, so we can let him off. All of the old managers that we love from the 1970's; they were al up to backhanders. Read the books.
If we're going to get rid of corruption, let's get rid of the lot of them. Whoever replaces him will be up to the same tricks. Young lads all over the UK are sold the dream and chucked on the scrap heap. For every Rooney there are thousands of disappointed nobodies who may well be just as good.
Yes Sam has done wrong and is completely out of order but I'm not surprised. Is he the only one? Of course not. And I'm not on about the one or two names that might come out later in the week. There'll be some really big names involved but we won't get to hear about them. I hope so but I doubt it.
I may have just contradicted myself.
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