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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 13:07:27 GMT
There are three games in the next week where the right results can help us stay on top. THU 7 JAN 2016 - LEAGUE ONE, Wigan v Gillingham, 19:45. C'mon Latics!
TUE 12 JAN 2016 - LEAGUE ONE, Coventry v Walsall, 19:45. A draw would be fine and tire out the Sky Blues for Sat. TUE 12 JAN 2016 Wigan v Sheff Utd, 19:45. C'mom Blades!
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Post by observer on Jan 6, 2016 13:25:11 GMT
I would take draws in all three
I suspect a bit like last season teams we don't want to win will keep winning though
Coventry are apparently leading the race to take Joe Cole on loan til end of season from Villa
(Villa looking to offload his 20k per week wages)
I actually hope they get him tbh - whilst we focus on team players etc
Shows what we are competing with money wise though
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Post by A38 on Jan 6, 2016 21:29:16 GMT
I know it's controversial, but whilst my heart is loving our position and enjoying every 3 points we notch up tremendously, a big part of my head doesn't actually want promotion this season. For a start I'm nervous about what would happen crowd wise next season. Villa in their deflated lull just took 4,000 all the way up to Sunderland. There could regularly be almost as many away fans (Villa, Forest, Wolves, Leeds, Blues, Derby etc etc) wanting to attend than our whole ground holds. Not a problem per se but speaking as a pragmatic non season ticket holding regular (15-20 games a season) who fully understands and supports the need for the priority match designations but still found them experience-worsening earlier in the season, I personally (maybe selfishly I don't know) fear the day that the ability to turn up and pay on the turnstile becomes a thing of the past, and if Port Vale gets the treatment then there wouldn't be many Championship fixtures that wouldn't. I'm generally nervous about what the impact on the match day experience in and around the ground would be with thousands of away fans turning up for a new local derby. I also genuinely value the fact that our players are not paid huge multiples of the average supporter's own wage and whilst of course I don't think Ben would suddenly be paying individuals thousands and thousands of pounds a week, the Championship as an entity is closer than I would like to the unsavoury extravagances that following a lower league team has thus far allowed me to avoid. We've talked about the all-seater thing before (3 years to convert) and whilst it's probably silly for me to worry about, standing is a big part of what the matchday experience is about for me personally and I don't want to lose the ability to do it, so even the merest prospect leaves me uneasy. All this concern is premature of course but it's getting to a point where our fantastic form is being sustained so well that it could have consequences we didn't dream possible! Congratulations to all that we're in this place anyway, COYB and make my fears a reality!
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Post by observer on Jan 6, 2016 21:35:11 GMT
Can't ever turn down chance of promotion.
Ben would be shrewd how we dealt with it and club would be stronger long term as a result with the income and opportunities it would bring
And anyone worried about watching us would need to buy season tickets I guess
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Post by observer on Jan 6, 2016 21:38:30 GMT
Being promoted to Championship would actually be best way to consolidate as a solid League One club
It would help us build our fanbase and commercial activity etc and even if we only lasted a year or two it sets us up as a bigger club for the future
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 21:52:10 GMT
There are things that could be done in addition to what the club already does. There could be a very simple members scheme, say for a £5 Brewers fans could register pre season and have next dibs for home tickets after the season ticket holders. But unfortunately there is no magic answer, should we get promotion and face very big travelling support possibilities, the onus would be on home fans to get their tickets as early as possible.
How did Yeovil manage it?
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Post by uttoxbrewer on Jan 6, 2016 21:53:15 GMT
I know it's controversial, but whilst my heart is loving our position and enjoying every 3 points we notch up tremendously, a big part of my head doesn't actually want promotion this season. For a start I'm nervous about what would happen crowd wise next season. Villa in their deflated lull just took 4,000 all the way up to Sunderland. There could regularly be almost as many away fans (Villa, Forest, Wolves, Leeds, Blues, Derby etc etc) wanting to attend than our whole ground holds. Not a problem per se but speaking as a pragmatic non season ticket holding regular (15-20 games a season) who fully understands and supports the need for the priority match designations but still found them experience-worsening earlier in the season, I personally (maybe selfishly I don't know) fear the day that the ability to turn up and pay on the turnstile becomes a thing of the past, and if Port Vale gets the treatment then there wouldn't be many Championship fixtures that wouldn't. I'm generally nervous about what the impact on the match day experience in and around the ground would be with thousands of away fans turning up for a new local derby. I also genuinely value the fact that our players are not paid huge multiples of the average supporter's own wage and whilst of course I don't think Ben would suddenly be paying individuals thousands and thousands of pounds a week, the Championship as an entity is closer than I would like to the unsavoury extravagances that following a lower league team has thus far allowed me to avoid. We've talked about the all-seater thing before (3 years to convert) and whilst it's probably silly for me to worry about, standing is a big part of what the matchday experience is about for me personally and I don't want to lose the ability to do it, so even the merest prospect leaves me uneasy. All this concern is premature of course but it's getting to a point where our fantastic form is being sustained so well that it could have consequences we didn't dream possible! Congratulations to all that we're in this place anyway, COYB and make my fears a reality! I've thought about this too A38 and for me you've hit this spot on. Even the head vs heart conundrum. If we got promoted (OK, I know there's a long way to go), it might be easier as a non season ticket holder to see away games (they'll be plenty of big clubs within 50-60 miles of Burton) than home games. And I'm aware there's always an opportunity to purchase a season ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 21:56:49 GMT
I know it's controversial, but whilst my heart is loving our position and enjoying every 3 points we notch up tremendously, a big part of my head doesn't actually want promotion this season. For a start I'm nervous about what would happen crowd wise next season. Villa in their deflated lull just took 4,000 all the way up to Sunderland. There could regularly be almost as many away fans (Villa, Forest, Wolves, Leeds, Blues, Derby etc etc) wanting to attend than our whole ground holds. Not a problem per se but speaking as a pragmatic non season ticket holding regular (15-20 games a season) who fully understands and supports the need for the priority match designations but still found them experience-worsening earlier in the season, I personally (maybe selfishly I don't know) fear the day that the ability to turn up and pay on the turnstile becomes a thing of the past, and if Port Vale gets the treatment then there wouldn't be many Championship fixtures that wouldn't. I'm generally nervous about what the impact on the match day experience in and around the ground would be with thousands of away fans turning up for a new local derby. I also genuinely value the fact that our players are not paid huge multiples of the average supporter's own wage and whilst of course I don't think Ben would suddenly be paying individuals thousands and thousands of pounds a week, the Championship as an entity is closer than I would like to the unsavoury extravagances that following a lower league team has thus far allowed me to avoid. We've talked about the all-seater thing before (3 years to convert) and whilst it's probably silly for me to worry about, standing is a big part of what the matchday experience is about for me personally and I don't want to lose the ability to do it, so even the merest prospect leaves me uneasy. All this concern is premature of course but it's getting to a point where our fantastic form is being sustained so well that it could have consequences we didn't dream possible! Congratulations to all that we're in this place anyway, COYB and make my fears a reality! A very honest assessment A38. We have gathered so much momentum and long may it continue. COYB.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:12:20 GMT
I definitely want promotion Why would anyone settle for consolidating in League one? Success brings problems with away followings obviously but I'm sure the club will learn how to deal with such issues.
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Post by bennyboy on Jan 6, 2016 22:15:45 GMT
Just a minor consideration from me. I have found it increasingly difficult to park these last 3 home games, so have got to the ground earlier. I have also forsaken that extra pint, to get on the terrace earlier. Just imagine if we got up to the Championship, even earlier start out, no beer, just so I can get in and find a good viewing spot on the terrace.
I do have a season ticket though so securing a ticket isn't a problem. As I say a minor problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:19:16 GMT
Just a minor consideration from me. I have found it increasingly difficult to park these last 3 home games, so have got to the ground earlier. I have also forsaken that extra pint, to get on the terrace earlier. Just imagine if we got up to the Championship, even earlier start out, no beer, just so I can get in and find a good viewing spot on the terrace. I do have a season ticket though so securing a ticket isn't a problem. As I say a minor problem. Bennyboy, Come for a pint at Stretton Social Club pre match . A very friendly club with excellent beer and free parking Plus it's only a few minutes stroll to the ground
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:37:22 GMT
There are things that could be done in addition to what the club already does. There could be a very simple members scheme, say for a £5 Brewers fans could register pre season and have next dibs for home tickets after the season ticket holders. But unfortunately there is no magic answer, should we get promotion and face very big travelling support possibilities, the onus would be on home fans to get their tickets as early as possible. How did Yeovil manage it? Yeovil Town - Where Did It All Go Wrong - BBC SportA brief analysis by the BBC on what happened at Yeovil. Informative and fair warning of what we'd have to expect IF we made it into the second tier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:37:45 GMT
I know it's controversial, but whilst my heart is loving our position and enjoying every 3 points we notch up tremendously, a big part of my head doesn't actually want promotion this season. For a start I'm nervous about what would happen crowd wise next season. Villa in their deflated lull just took 4,000 all the way up to Sunderland. There could regularly be almost as many away fans (Villa, Forest, Wolves, Leeds, Blues, Derby etc etc) wanting to attend than our whole ground holds. Not a problem per se but speaking as a pragmatic non season ticket holding regular (15-20 games a season) who fully understands and supports the need for the priority match designations but still found them experience-worsening earlier in the season, I personally (maybe selfishly I don't know) fear the day that the ability to turn up and pay on the turnstile becomes a thing of the past, and if Port Vale gets the treatment then there wouldn't be many Championship fixtures that wouldn't. I'm generally nervous about what the impact on the match day experience in and around the ground would be with thousands of away fans turning up for a new local derby. I also genuinely value the fact that our players are not paid huge multiples of the average supporter's own wage and whilst of course I don't think Ben would suddenly be paying individuals thousands and thousands of pounds a week, the Championship as an entity is closer than I would like to the unsavoury extravagances that following a lower league team has thus far allowed me to avoid. We've talked about the all-seater thing before (3 years to convert) and whilst it's probably silly for me to worry about, standing is a big part of what the matchday experience is about for me personally and I don't want to lose the ability to do it, so even the merest prospect leaves me uneasy. All this concern is premature of course but it's getting to a point where our fantastic form is being sustained so well that it could have consequences we didn't dream possible! Congratulations to all that we're in this place anyway, COYB and make my fears a reality! Fantastic post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:39:19 GMT
Just a minor consideration from me. I have found it increasingly difficult to park these last 3 home games, so have got to the ground earlier. I have also forsaken that extra pint, to get on the terrace earlier. Just imagine if we got up to the Championship, even earlier start out, no beer, just so I can get in and find a good viewing spot on the terrace. I do have a season ticket though so securing a ticket isn't a problem. As I say a minor problem. Bennyboy, Come for a pint at Stretton Social Club pre match . A very friendly club with excellent beer and free parking Plus it's only a few minutes stroll to the ground Beat me too it earwig, but indeed, a lovely pre match venue. Last two home games, I have struggled to get 'my space' on the terrace. Not a problem for me, as I don't have a space. To be honest, I love that, great to have bigger crowds. Being a big 6 ft 4 person though I do feel for the people behind me, maybe I will have to leave 4 minutes earlier if crowds continue to be a bit large.
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Post by riverman on Jan 6, 2016 22:41:06 GMT
A38, you echo a lot of my thoughts. For many years now I have prided myself in supporting a team from the lower leagues where it seems more real and we don't have a team of overpaid primadonnas. Of course as a fan . I don't go to a match hoping to lose and the recent history has been wonderful. But I could be quite happy if we made the play offs and lost in the semi-final! Having said that, if we defy all predictions and get back to back promotions I expect I'll stick with the fantastic ride. It's too late now to be able to defect to Tamworth or Gresley to get back to some grass roots
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 22:48:06 GMT
There are things that could be done in addition to what the club already does. There could be a very simple members scheme, say for a £5 Brewers fans could register pre season and have next dibs for home tickets after the season ticket holders. But unfortunately there is no magic answer, should we get promotion and face very big travelling support possibilities, the onus would be on home fans to get their tickets as early as possible. How did Yeovil manage it? Yeovil Town - Where Did It All Go Wrong - BBC SportA brief analysis by the BBC on what happened at Yeovil. Informative and fair warning of what we'd have to expect IF we made it into the second tier. I've read that before as I am sure has our Chairman. But, there is a different way, a way that means you harvest the TV income and additional supporter income but do not over invest in team salaries, you can though, conversely over reward salaries for maintaining Championship football (relatively) but have proper relegation clauses, so that you are not stuck with Championship wages in League One or League Two. I am sure it will not be easy or straightforward if it happens, but to be fair we probably have, at the helm, one of the few people who could make it work.
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Post by keggy on Jan 6, 2016 23:40:12 GMT
If the unthinkable did happen, would Mr Robinson be tempted to sell? I would if i was in that position.
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Post by NobodyGood on Jan 6, 2016 23:42:11 GMT
It's a huge year to get in as the hugely inflated TV deal will kick off next year meaning huge £££. Including parachute payments should we fail. Let's enjoy the ride and think about this in the break
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 23:45:55 GMT
The only thing to fear is fear itself. Everything else a solution can be found for, some find it, some don't. The only concern for me is the potential loss of at least one standing terrace. (But that 'law' could change, it's a work in progress). Even if it didn't change a club currently has until the beginning of their 4th season in the Championship to covert to all seater, and that could take us 10 years. I'll probably want to sit by then anyway! Anyway, in the short term, over the next 6 days,I still hope Gillingham don't get any points, Wigan get no more than 3 and Coventry and Walsall each get one.
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Post by bennyboy on Jan 6, 2016 23:55:50 GMT
Just a minor consideration from me. I have found it increasingly difficult to park these last 3 home games, so have got to the ground earlier. I have also forsaken that extra pint, to get on the terrace earlier. Just imagine if we got up to the Championship, even earlier start out, no beer, just so I can get in and find a good viewing spot on the terrace. I do have a season ticket though so securing a ticket isn't a problem. As I say a minor problem. Bennyboy, Come for a pint at Stretton Social Club pre match . A very friendly club with excellent beer and free parking Plus it's only a few minutes stroll to the ground Yes I have been invited before and do intend to get there before much longer. We meet up with others from various parts of Burton and Derbys so not all of them are convenient to meet there, but I'm working on it. We share the driving duties too so we can all have a pint or two, or in my case last match a shandy and a soft drink as I was the driver.
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