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Post by reg on Sept 16, 2012 12:44:01 GMT
Guys, having a board like this is all about diversity of opinions. It is actually good to see Rowett Owett joining the board and I really do feel we should be a little tolerant and respect other people's views. It would be ever so boring if we all thought exactly the same, so why not live and let live a bit? I do wish we were able to have more diverse opinions and views on here sometimes and it is a shame that many of the old posters such as El Diablo/Pirelli Popsider/Michael V, TM, Karl, Broomo, Ilson, Colwyn Bay Brewer, Asia Brewer etc etc have not found us and posted yet. We need to continue to spread the word !! When you have a bloke that actually picks a user name that implies he wants the manager of my club sacked when he is doing extremely well, you want me to take the idiot seriously and debate with him? get real, the bloke is either a wind up merchant or just a complete cock.
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Post by rowettowett on Sept 16, 2012 12:46:31 GMT
Charming. I kept this name as it's the one you knew me by. Keep the personal abuse going, I love being the one on the moral high ground for a change
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Post by reg on Sept 16, 2012 12:51:56 GMT
OK I give up guessing, are you really a Burton fan or not? I find it really strange if you are that people have to try and tell you after 2 consecutive wins that things ain't that bad
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Post by rowettowett on Sept 16, 2012 12:54:43 GMT
I have come on this board and explained my views rather than just stuff like "ROWETT OUT LOLS". I have given credit (read my historic posts, you can do that now). I have jumped on your bandwagon and registered so you had one less stick to beat me by. But still you do.
Just tell me, how much of a bloody clique is this place? Now I'm being asked if I'm a fan - I'm on the messageboard of a footballing minnow, posting opinions on their games on a board that is near impossible for the casual fan yet alone a rival to find. And I even get called a cock.
Stone the non-believer!
Which one of us is really the bad one here?
This board is just CTMD at the end 2.0, rather than in the middle.
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Post by reg on Sept 16, 2012 13:08:11 GMT
Obviously I'm the bad one for not being depressed like you! Tell ya what, welcome to the board, I really hope you enjoy your time here and that mikeyboy gets his wish and the moaning buggers that annoy everyone come back, but I won't be around to see it, because my weekends are for enjoyment and backing the team/management/club, and not being a moaning muppet, this weekend every Brewer should be happy, which the vast majority of us are! see ya
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Post by rowettowett on Sept 16, 2012 13:22:26 GMT
Open letter to Reg (have no other way to contact him)[/u]
You've deleted you account? What's the point in that? That's not going to stop the "moaning buggers" as you put them, as I said the other day - a good board needs a balance. I thought you were someone I could have a good debate with until you started attacking me. That's worse than someone just trolling.
I've always kept in the back of my mind that I'm talking to a person, a fellow football fan. Whilst I know that my beliefs probably go against the "majority", they are my beliefs and I have as much a right to discuss them as you do yours, without fear of attack (disagreement, certainly). If you can't hack people with opposing views at any stage then certainly a messageboard isn't the place for you - but I think you're bigger and better than that.
I watch the whole game, not just the good bits. There was more good than bad, you don't get a scoreline like that without it, but focusing on only good points is a very dangerous game when it comes to a long season. I don't think Rowett is the man to bring long term success to Burton Albion - that is my view. If you do, fair enough. One of us will be right, one will be wrong. But it is much better to say "I told you so" as opposed to "oh well, I just pretended to like him and went along with the flow". Be true to your opinions.
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Post by everard on Sept 16, 2012 15:01:21 GMT
Open letter to Reg (have no other way to contact him) [/u] You've deleted you account? What's the point in that? That's not going to stop the "moaning buggers" as you put them, as I said the other day - a good board needs a balance. I thought you were someone I could have a good debate with until you started attacking me. That's worse than someone just trolling. I've always kept in the back of my mind that I'm talking to a person, a fellow football fan. Whilst I know that my beliefs probably go against the "majority", they are my beliefs and I have as much a right to discuss them as you do yours, without fear of attack (disagreement, certainly). If you can't hack people with opposing views at any stage then certainly a messageboard isn't the place for you - but I think you're bigger and better than that. I watch the whole game, not just the good bits. There was more good than bad, you don't get a scoreline like that without it, but focusing on only good points is a very dangerous game when it comes to a long season. I don't think Rowett is the man to bring long term success to Burton Albion - that is my view. If you do, fair enough. One of us will be right, one will be wrong. But it is much better to say "I told you so" as opposed to "oh well, I just pretended to like him and went along with the flow". Be true to your opinions.[/quote] Be true to yourself then RoOw and to the rest of us and tell us if you are a Brewer's fan - your failure to answer Reg's question with nothing but self-righteous indignation tells me that you are not, as does describing yourself as a fellow-football fan rather than a fellow Brewers fan and your use of the third person "they" when talking about us - but I guess you'll find a deceitful or evasive answer more 'fun' and as you'll no doubt be aware, we've no way of knowing the truth of it have we? You seek to explain your position on two groundsi i) (on another thread) you justify your constant criticism with the argument that we can always be better - therefore (unless sweeping all before us every game) there's always something valid to moan about - i.e. we're tenth after six games and we should be first, lets find a reason and moan about it - and ii) a Fans Forum without whingers and moaners lacks balance and is unhealthy - well no, it's more enjoyable for some of us to discuss shades of grey than it is to try to polarise everything into an unreal black and white world. Me? my position? I don't accept either of your points - everyone knows that we're doing OK right now and most of us, while knowing that we're not top of the League and that (like last season things can go wrong) we're happy to be enjoying some great results, some stunning goals, some resolute defending and some all round good football from an improved and promising Brewers side (representing a club that not so long ago was turning out against the likes of Dorchester St Alban's CIty, Vauzhall Motors and Farsley Cletic etc etc you've heard it all before....) We're a small town club that's still on the up - we're not Portsmouth or Coventry, Plymouth or Bradford, Chester or Halifax - the fans of these Clubs must feel quite depressed as they've fallen on such hard times - Brewers fans should be happy - we've come a long way and we're still improving and I've had a great few years as a Brewers supporter and I don't need to be constantly reminded that we could be better. Thank you! Rejoice! Become a Happy Clapper!
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Post by rowettowett on Sept 16, 2012 15:14:44 GMT
I could very easily just come here and say "I am a Brewers fan", but it's the internet - anyone can say that. By the same token, I've never said I'm not and I direct you to my following quote: Now I'm being asked if I'm a fan - I'm on the messageboard of a footballing minnow, posting opinions on their games on a board that is near impossible for the casual fan yet alone a rival to find. Please read between the lines there. I don't need to spell it out. (With regards to not using "us" - I hate it when fans do that when referring to the team... it's not us. Sure, "we" (the fans) can spur them on with chants, cheers and even - dare I say it - boos, but we're not part of "them", and I find it a little silly when people go on about "we won", "we lost", "we were awful" etc. etc. The only people ultimately responsible for what happens on the pitch are those 11 out there, the handful of subs, the backroom staff and finally those with their hands on the pursestrings. It's nearly as bad as the "12th Man" rubbish the goats did on the back of their programme a few years or whenever ago). I was there that night away to Vauxhall Motors, and even at home to the same team on September 11th 2001 (remember that? Much more of an indication than a match we knew we would go up from). So really, is me coming out and saying "My name is Rowett Owett and I am a Burton Albion fan" really going to do enough to sate your opinion of me? It's not Albion fans' anonymous, it's the Burton Albion messageboard for Christ's sake! Of course we're fans if we're discussing the team. So yes, I am a fan of Burton Albion. I have been for decades now, having seen the team in four different divisions and sung, supported and chanted from Marine to Manchester United, Rothwell to Rochdale. My opinion counts for as much as yours, or Reg's, or Adambrewers (maybe a bit more than CP if he really is MichaelV though!).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 15:46:11 GMT
Been watching the albion since 1966,every person is entitled to a opinion on this forum. Rowett Owett you can have yours its intresting reading,but please be aware that there are those on here who can give it,but cannot take it,as page 5 on this thread proves.
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Post by claymillman on Sept 16, 2012 15:55:23 GMT
Surely one main factor in our winning performances so far is that, we beat Leicester, Wimbledon, and Oxford by more than a single goal. This in itself has been very rare over the last couple of seasons in any game we have won. We generally won games by a single goal, with us all biting our nails. This demonstrates a different frame of mind and strategy at the club.
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Post by everard on Sept 16, 2012 16:13:01 GMT
Surely one main factor in our winning performances so far is that, we beat Leicester, Wimbledon, and Oxford by more than a single goal. This in itself has been very rare over the last couple of seasons in any game we have won. We generally won games by a single goal, with us all biting our nails. This demonstrates a different frame of mind and strategy at the club. True and it's great for us fans that we've scored a few this season - six against the Wombles, four against the Foxes and four agaainst Oxford - but listening to GR's interview yesteday it seems scoring goals for free is not really part of his strategy - it's clear that he's putting the emphasis on keepiing clean sheets - as he says you start the game with a point don't lose it. Keep a clean sheet and you can always nick a goal win the game and get three points. He's not from the school of thought that says it's OK to let in three, if you score four. His comments om Mags were interesting too.
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Post by brewereece on Sept 18, 2012 12:47:41 GMT
Who cares if anyone wants him gone or not, this all seems a little petty. Give him your full support and Ben will make the decisions.
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Post by sjh567 on Sept 18, 2012 13:04:00 GMT
I could very easily just come here and say "I am a Brewers fan", but it's the internet - anyone can say that. By the same token, I've never said I'm not and I direct you to my following quote: Now I'm being asked if I'm a fan - I'm on the messageboard of a footballing minnow, posting opinions on their games on a board that is near impossible for the casual fan yet alone a rival to find. Please read between the lines there. I don't need to spell it out. (With regards to not using "us" - I hate it when fans do that when referring to the team... it's not us. Sure, "we" (the fans) can spur them on with chants, cheers and even - dare I say it - boos, but we're not part of "them", and I find it a little silly when people go on about "we won", "we lost", "we were awful" etc. etc. The only people ultimately responsible for what happens on the pitch are those 11 out there, the handful of subs, the backroom staff and finally those with their hands on the pursestrings. It's nearly as bad as the "12th Man" rubbish the goats did on the back of their programme a few years or whenever ago). I was there that night away to Vauxhall Motors, and even at home to the same team on September 11th 2001 (remember that? Much more of an indication than a match we knew we would go up from). So really, is me coming out and saying "My name is Rowett Owett and I am a Burton Albion fan" really going to do enough to sate your opinion of me? It's not Albion fans' anonymous, it's the Burton Albion messageboard for Christ's sake! Of course we're fans if we're discussing the team. So yes, I am a fan of Burton Albion. I have been for decades now, having seen the team in four different divisions and sung, supported and chanted from Marine to Manchester United, Rothwell to Rochdale. My opinion counts for as much as yours, or Reg's, or Adambrewers (maybe a bit more than CP if he really is MichaelV though!). for the last time cp is not michaelv....i know michaelv and he is younger than 50.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 13:34:07 GMT
Rowettowett You think that GR is the wrong man for the job,fine.Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and its good to share them on this or any other board.So the big question is,WHO would you have instead?
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Post by loyalyellow on Sept 18, 2012 14:25:44 GMT
Don't see what Rowett has done wrong yet. Taken a failed squad and got rid of the wasters and brought in some excellent young players. That coupled with the last minute joiners of O'Connor, Paterson and Tomlinson give us a squad that 'looks' like it may even be competing at the top end of the table this season!
If it all goes for a pigs ear, then by all means call for his head, until then I believe every Brewer should be singing his praises and and getting behind him, his staff and the squad.
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Post by adambrewer on Sept 18, 2012 15:24:22 GMT
Brilliant post Loyal Yellow. Echoes exactly what my thoughts are. He scrapped the dead wood, bought an experienced assistant manager in, bought plenty of quality young players already packed with experience. And Zander Diamond for example is a lot more useful to our squad than an overpaid Darren Moore was. Stuart Tomlinson seems to have made a big difference too.
I was all gutted and peeved when Rowett got the job after the season ended with a whimper, but I've renewed my season ticket, kept behind the club, and it's good to see him doing well.
I'm still trying to work out how people can see a convincing 4-0 win over a club like Oxford as "still not good enough". It's been a while since we've thrashed a club and kept a clean sheet in the process. But everyone is entitled to their opinion, and hopefully we will get another good home result tomorrow night, 3 wins in a row is something we haven't done since 2009 is it?
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Post by colston on Sept 18, 2012 19:13:57 GMT
I would add to the above that he didn't just get rid of "wasters" and "dead wood." He made tough decisions, too, to move on popular, decent players because their time (with us) was up... Jamo, Rhino for example
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Post by spartacus on Sept 18, 2012 19:24:04 GMT
I'm michaelv!
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