Is Radio Derby Biased?

[staffbrewer1950]

I guess this subject may have been raised before on this site but like me,does anyone else agree Radio Derby are biased towards County?They think Derby County are the finest team in the world,can do nothing wrong, especially Ed Dawes,even though we know different lol.The mighty Brewers are lucky if we get on for the last twenty minutes on a saturday matchday and the only night worth listening to in the week at 6, is on a thursday.Even on a tuesday matchday for for us,we are shoved onto MW,even if Derby aren't playing.My other local radio station,Stoke,feature all of the league teams on either FM or DAB.I'll be interested in all your thoughts.

[Ilson Brewer]

Feb 23, 2024 17:34:41 GMT staffbrewer1950 said:

I guess this subject may have been raised before on this site but like me,does anyone else agree Radio Derby are biased towards County?They think Derby County are the finest team in the world,can do nothing wrong, especially Ed Dawes,even though we know different lol.The mighty Brewers are lucky if we get on for the last twenty minutes on a saturday matchday and the only night worth listening to in the week at 6, is on a thursday.Even on a tuesday matchday for for us,we are shoved onto MW,even if Derby aren't playing.My other local radio station,Stoke,feature all of the league teams on either FM or DAB.I'll be interested in all your thoughts.

Derby County have a much bigger fan base in the area covered by the station. They are a bigger club in terms of their support, financial muscle, ground and historical achievements. Of course Radio Derby prioritise them over Burton Albion. The coverage for BAFC is very good though. Can’t stand Colin Gibson, but I hear he quite likes me. 

[sinfinbovril]

The clue is in the name. Radio DERBY.

As people on here have mentioned before, we're lucky to get a mention or a commentary.

Honest question (I don't know the answer) - can Chesterfield fans listen to a commentary of their matches every Saturday?

I don't listen to them (RD) all wetting their pants about the mighty rams. My radio has an Off Button.

I wonder what Radio Manchester does. Or Radio Nottingham?

[ianmcgibbon]

Feb 23, 2024 17:55:08 GMT sinfinbovril said:

The clue is in the name. Radio DERBY.

As people on here have mentioned before, we're lucky to get a mention or a commentary.

Honest question (I don't know the answer) - can Chesterfield fans listen to a commentary of their matches every Saturday?

I don't listen to them (RD) all wetting their pants about the mighty rams. My radio has an Off Button.

I wonder what Radio Manchester does. Or Radio Nottingham?

I don't think the name of the radio station is relevant. Radio Derby covers, Derby, Derbyshire (mostly) and East Staffordshire.

Chesterfield FC have always been covered on Radio Sheffield as it happens. Stories about Killamarsh and Clowne are rarely on Radio Derby, but, instead on Radio Sheffield.

So whilst Burton were non-League, it was always appropriate for Radio Derby to focus on Derby County.

Only in recent years has this become an issue. As a professional club in their 'catchment' area, perhaps we should get equal coverage when we are in the same League.

However, I don't think that should be the case, their fan base is greater and wider, so I would expect that they should get the foremost coverage. They also have, on a number of occasions tried to get more involvement from Brewers fans on call-ins and discussions and often been left with an empty switchboard.

Two more things:

1. Just because the BBC within its funding envelope seems determined to get rid of local radio, I don't think we should seem 'fortunate' that they still deploy a commentary team. We should, collectively, be more engaged in ensuring public service local radio remains available. Alas, no one seems to care.

2. When we still have the current BBC local radio offer, Radio Derby should be offering decent coverage of a League One team in their area. On a number of occasions they have failed to bring post match interviews, from Burton Albion games, I complain, perhaps if others did too, they would pay more attention (or maybe they have, because it has improved). The weeknight coverage though is poor. No coverage on a Monday 'moan in' for Derby fans (obvs they are not currently moaning). And Brewers coverage seems to be left to Thursday night when we get a solid 20 mins.

In summary, yes, it could be worse, I don't see why we should be aiming for worse. And it has nothing to do with the name of the station.

[Ilson Brewer]

Feb 23, 2024 18:18:45 GMT ianmcgibbon said:

Feb 23, 2024 17:55:08 GMT sinfinbovril said:

The clue is in the name. Radio DERBY.

As people on here have mentioned before, we're lucky to get a mention or a commentary.

Honest question (I don't know the answer) - can Chesterfield fans listen to a commentary of their matches every Saturday?

I don't listen to them (RD) all wetting their pants about the mighty rams. My radio has an Off Button.

I wonder what Radio Manchester does. Or Radio Nottingham?

I don't think the name of the radio station is relevant. Radio Derby covers, Derby, Derbyshire (mostly) and East Staffordshire.

Chesterfield FC have always been covered on Radio Sheffield as it happens. Stories about Killamarsh and Clowne are rarely on Radio Derby, but, instead on Radio Sheffield.

So whilst Burton were non-League, it was always appropriate for Radio Derby to focus on Derby County.

Only in recent years has this become an issue. As a professional club in their 'catchment' area, perhaps we should get equal coverage when we are in the same League.

However, I don't think that should be the case, their fan base is greater and wider, so I would expect that they should get the foremost coverage. They also have, on a number of occasions tried to get more involvement from Brewers fans on call-ins and discussions and often been left with an empty switchboard.

Two more things:

1. Just because the BBC within its funding envelope seems determined to get rid of local radio, I don't think we should seem 'fortunate' that they still deploy a commentary team. We should, collectively, be more engaged in ensuring public service local radio remains available. Alas, no one seems to care.

2. When we still have the current BBC local radio offer, Radio Derby should be offering decent coverage of a League One team in their area. On a number of occasions they have failed to bring post match interviews, from Burton Albion games, I complain, perhaps if others did too, they would pay more attention (or maybe they have, because it has improved). The weeknight coverage though is poor. No coverage on a Monday 'moan in' for Derby fans (obvs they are not currently moaning). And Brewers coverage seems to be left to Thursday night when we get a solid 20 mins.

In summary, yes, it could be worse, I don't see why we should be aiming for worse. And it has nothing to do with the name of the station.

There has been an on-going and highly successful, right-wing, propaganda campaign against the BBC (presumably funded by the likes of Murdoch) which centres on the licence fee and uses the strawman of BBC scandals and accusations of “bias” to enrage the public to the point where, even output from the BBC which is clearly for the public good is denigrated and denounced. Public funded news and entertainment is anathema to the free-market, swivel-eyed loons. Yes, it has many faults, but it generally makes a positive contribution to the good of our society. Many will jump on this statement with howls of laughter or anger, but as I say, it has been a very successful propaganda campaign. 

[ianmcgibbon]

Feb 24, 2024 14:00:13 GMT Ilson Brewer said:

Feb 23, 2024 18:18:45 GMT ianmcgibbon said:

I don't think the name of the radio station is relevant. Radio Derby covers, Derby, Derbyshire (mostly) and East Staffordshire.

Chesterfield FC have always been covered on Radio Sheffield as it happens. Stories about Killamarsh and Clowne are rarely on Radio Derby, but, instead on Radio Sheffield.

So whilst Burton were non-League, it was always appropriate for Radio Derby to focus on Derby County.

Only in recent years has this become an issue. As a professional club in their 'catchment' area, perhaps we should get equal coverage when we are in the same League.

However, I don't think that should be the case, their fan base is greater and wider, so I would expect that they should get the foremost coverage. They also have, on a number of occasions tried to get more involvement from Brewers fans on call-ins and discussions and often been left with an empty switchboard.

Two more things:

1. Just because the BBC within its funding envelope seems determined to get rid of local radio, I don't think we should seem 'fortunate' that they still deploy a commentary team. We should, collectively, be more engaged in ensuring public service local radio remains available. Alas, no one seems to care.

2. When we still have the current BBC local radio offer, Radio Derby should be offering decent coverage of a League One team in their area. On a number of occasions they have failed to bring post match interviews, from Burton Albion games, I complain, perhaps if others did too, they would pay more attention (or maybe they have, because it has improved). The weeknight coverage though is poor. No coverage on a Monday 'moan in' for Derby fans (obvs they are not currently moaning). And Brewers coverage seems to be left to Thursday night when we get a solid 20 mins.

In summary, yes, it could be worse, I don't see why we should be aiming for worse. And it has nothing to do with the name of the station.

There has been an on-going and highly successful, right-wing, propaganda campaign against the BBC (presumably funded by the likes of Murdoch) which centres on the licence fee and uses the strawman of BBC scandals and accusations of “bias” to enrage the public to the point where, even output from the BBC which is clearly for the public good is denigrated and denounced. Public funded news and entertainment is anathema to the free-market, swivel-eyed loons. Yes, it has many faults, but it generally makes a positive contribution to the good of our society. Many will jump on this statement with howls of laughter or anger, but as I say, it has been a very successful propaganda campaign. 

I'm not allowed an opinion these days.

[Ilson Brewer]

I suspect I will be sanctioned. My apologies in advance.

[jeanf]

Radio Derby match day coverage and commentary is ok if Dave and Aaron are on. Post match coverage is poor as Derby get the first and most post match interviews, we have to wait until Derby has been covered.
I would suggest listening to MicroBrew Radio on the internet on a Monday 6-7pm Local sport scene and at least the first 30 mins is designated to BA. The debate and review of matches is done by BA supporters and is interactive so other supporters can post messages, comments and questions. Well worth a listen.

[everard]

Feb 24, 2024 14:00:13 GMT Ilson Brewer said:

Feb 23, 2024 18:18:45 GMT ianmcgibbon said:

I don't think the name of the radio station is relevant. Radio Derby covers, Derby, Derbyshire (mostly) and East Staffordshire.

Chesterfield FC have always been covered on Radio Sheffield as it happens. Stories about Killamarsh and Clowne are rarely on Radio Derby, but, instead on Radio Sheffield.

So whilst Burton were non-League, it was always appropriate for Radio Derby to focus on Derby County.

Only in recent years has this become an issue. As a professional club in their 'catchment' area, perhaps we should get equal coverage when we are in the same League.

However, I don't think that should be the case, their fan base is greater and wider, so I would expect that they should get the foremost coverage. They also have, on a number of occasions tried to get more involvement from Brewers fans on call-ins and discussions and often been left with an empty switchboard.

Two more things:

1. Just because the BBC within its funding envelope seems determined to get rid of local radio, I don't think we should seem 'fortunate' that they still deploy a commentary team. We should, collectively, be more engaged in ensuring public service local radio remains available. Alas, no one seems to care.

2. When we still have the current BBC local radio offer, Radio Derby should be offering decent coverage of a League One team in their area. On a number of occasions they have failed to bring post match interviews, from Burton Albion games, I complain, perhaps if others did too, they would pay more attention (or maybe they have, because it has improved). The weeknight coverage though is poor. No coverage on a Monday 'moan in' for Derby fans (obvs they are not currently moaning). And Brewers coverage seems to be left to Thursday night when we get a solid 20 mins.

In summary, yes, it could be worse, I don't see why we should be aiming for worse. And it has nothing to do with the name of the station.

There has been an on-going and highly successful, right-wing, propaganda campaign against the BBC (presumably funded by the likes of Murdoch) which centres on the licence fee and uses the strawman of BBC scandals and accusations of “bias” to enrage the public to the point where, even output from the BBC which is clearly for the public good is denigrated and denounced. Public funded news and entertainment is anathema to the free-market, swivel-eyed loons. Yes, it has many faults, but it generally makes a positive contribution to the good of our society. Many will jump on this statement with howls of laughter or anger, but as I say, it has been a very successful propaganda campaign. 

I agree
IMO The BBC sits alongside the NHS as a national institution. It should be equally cherished and safeguarded.
It is vitally and increasingly (in this age of social media) important to our culture and our democracy. It is excellent value for money and far from being a state monopoly. Apart from the breadth and quality of its own programmes, it sets the standards for other channels, which we're all free to watch if we don't want to watch the Beeb...
At the local level there's not always the same choice, tho jeanf has made me aware of a local radio station I didn't know of...
I lament the demise of the local press...among many other disappearing things that used to enrich our lives..
Praise be to Colston for his coverage of the Brewers, local proper pubs and Bass...

[mikeyboy]

Is Radio Derby biased? Is the pope a Catholic?
It most certainly is,everard makes some great points and I don’t think the problem is anything to do with the BBC at national level as such. It is purely at local level, with the problem stretching back many years. Over the years the powers that be have just been conceited, biased Derby sycophants and even when we were in the Championship we didn’t receive anything like parity. Frankly I have never known anything like it and the Derby love in goes on year in, year out.
Some one asked how it compares to other BBC stations and I can only compare it to Radio Nottingham, where Notts County and Mansfield are treated much more equally. So are Vale and Crewe on BBC Stoke.
My favourite is Radio Lancashire who have to provide coverage to a lot of clubs but lower league clubs like Morecambe and Accrington are treated one helluva lot more respectfully than we are. The same with Radio Sheffield also where Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster and Chesterfield are respected and valued just as much as Sheff U and Sheff Weds.

[mikeyboy]

Feb 24, 2024 20:08:10 GMT jeanf said:

Radio Derby match day coverage and commentary is ok if Dave and Aaron are on. Post match coverage is poor as Derby get the first and most post match interviews, we have to wait until Derby has been covered.
I would suggest listening to MicroBrew Radio on the internet on a Monday 6-7pm Local sport scene and at least the first 30 mins is designated to BA. The debate and review of matches is done by BA supporters and is interactive so other supporters can post messages, comments and questions. Well worth a listen.

Thanks you Jean for highlighting this.

[Ilson Brewer]

Radio Derby covers Derby, most of Derbyshire, East Staffordshire and North West Leicestershire. Even in Burton, most football fans appear to support Derby and it has been like that for many generations (including before Burton Albion existed). Radio Derby is not biased - it reflects the population to which it broadcasts. Derby County do suffer from a sense of entitlement (having won the top league twice in the 1970’s) but they are very well and enthusiastically supported.

[superbrewer]

To be honest I don't have a problem with the coverage Radio Derby give to Derby County ,it's frustrating having to wait around 45 minutes to hear the match report and interview with the manager ,but we attract 3000 fans Derby attract 30000 they are always going to get more coverage than us.
At least we do get coverage ,far more than plenty of other teams of our size.

[ianmcgibbon]

Interestingly, tonight Radio Derby prattled for ages after the game, waiting for Paul Warne to appear. They also interviewed Corey Smith.

At 10.26pm they went to a (seething in my opinion and cold), Dave and Aaron. They chatted benignly up to 10.30pm. The interview with Paterson had been done and was presumably 'in the can'.

Now, I am sure this is not straightforward, games finishing at different times, managers showing for interviews when the can be bothered, both defeated.

But that is pretty shabby treatment to be fair.

But, then, resources are stretched, local radio is only a bonus these days.

I'd complain, but the answer would inevitably be something like you are lucky to have what you get... etc

[bennyboy]

They prattled on about what a poor state of affairs Derby are in ATM and how Paul Warne is going to arrest the situation. For god's sake they are 2nd in the league.

[jeanf]

Feb 27, 2024 23:23:05 GMT ianmcgibbon said:

Interestingly, tonight Radio Derby prattled for ages after the game, waiting for Paul Warne to appear. They also interviewed Corey Smith.

At 10.26pm they went to a (seething in my opinion and cold), Dave and Aaron. They chatted benignly up to 10.30pm. The interview with Paterson had been done and was presumably 'in the can'.

Now, I am sure this is not straightforward, games finishing at different times, managers showing for interviews when the can be bothered, both defeated.

But that is pretty shabby treatment to be fair.

But, then, resources are stretched, local radio is only a bonus these days.

I'd complain, but the answer would inevitably be something like you are lucky to have what you get... etc

[jeanf]

Must admit I looked for Pato's post match interview on Radio Derby today and yes Ian it wasn't on.

[superbrewer]

Apparently Patto's interview will be on Sportscene tonight between 18.00 - 19.00 hrs.He did an interview on Micro Brew Radio after the game and that is online if you listen to that I doubt it will be pretty well much the same as what he said to Dave Fletcher.

[ianmcgibbon]

Feb 28, 2024 13:01:22 GMT jeanf said:

Must admit I looked for Pato's post match interview on Radio Derby today and yes Ian it wasn't on.

Hi Jean, they have promised it in Sportscene 6pm tonight.

[luke]

For any that wanted to see Pato's interview from after the Carlisle game, our section of Sportscene starts at 35:00. Also interviewed Deji Oshilaja too at 40:42 as well

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0h8gmxn