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Post by trevor1946 on Jan 12, 2020 18:13:58 GMT
What ever kieran is suffering from he has my best wishes and please get well soon
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Post by cbh1 on Jan 22, 2020 12:06:40 GMT
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Jan 22, 2020 13:10:12 GMT
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Post by brewersinramland on Jan 22, 2020 13:10:12 GMT
Simple explanation that could have been put out much earlier. Good communication = no speculation.
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Jan 22, 2020 14:25:09 GMT
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Post by cbh1 on Jan 22, 2020 14:25:09 GMT
Sure there is a reason why nothing has been said until now. Maybe to try and protect the player, I don’t know.
What I will say is that the manager is usually fairly forthcoming around injury news etc. I can remember when JFH was in charge it was like trying to get blood from a stone trying to get injury updates from him.
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Post by britty on Jan 22, 2020 22:27:32 GMT
Simple explanation that could have been put out much earlier. Good communication = no speculation. Well said. Struggling to see why it's taken almost a month for anything more than "illness" to be announced.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 23, 2020 18:49:41 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000?
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Post by sinfinbovril on Jan 23, 2020 21:51:29 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? C'mon Colston, you know the answer to that one....!
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 23, 2020 23:30:00 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? C'mon Colston, you know the answer to that one....! Because they want to
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Post by A38 on Jan 24, 2020 8:04:37 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? It might be bonkers but it’s exactly the way normal football fans think and talk. Normal fans get together in normal drinking establishments and talk about their club and this is exactly the normal sort of conversation that goes on. I’d understand you slating the speculation if it was a media thing but as far as I know it was just Britty’s little “normal football fan” theory just like we all have as normal football fans. This forum has developed a bit of a focus on the “learned professional” posters without whose agreement viewpoints aren’t valid. That and a place for links to what I’m sure are well-written articles if only my phone would load them properly rather than immediately clogging up with all the clickbait adverts they are ridden with.
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Post by WestEnder on Jan 24, 2020 9:46:43 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? I remember posting on here about seeing Wallace with a bandage or plaster so I didn’t think it was transfer related myself, but I do see where fans are coming from and think it would’ve been better to hear it slightly earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 10:26:52 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? It might be bonkers but it’s exactly the way normal football fans think and talk. Normal fans get together in normal drinking establishments and talk about their club and this is exactly the normal sort of conversation that goes on. I’d understand you slating the speculation if it was a media thing but as far as I know it was just Britty’s little “normal football fan” theory just like we all have as normal football fans. This forum has developed a bit of a focus on the “learned professional” posters without whose agreement viewpoints aren’t valid. That and a place for links to what I’m sure are well-written articles if only my phone would load them properly rather than immediately clogging up with all the clickbait adverts they are ridden with. Yes, maybe we do need to be more tolerant of the “normal” - it’s fine being a smart arse and proving things with pesky facts, but in the pub after the game, all comments and opinions, evidenced or otherwise, are fair game. I do think it is different on public platforms like here and Facebook, but the world has gone mad and false information appears to be “normal” these days. On the issue of the click bait (and I know it is off topic but someone will bring it back I’m sure), the newspapers now have to rely on this for income as hardly anyone buys newspapers anymore. If we want quality sports journalism (and yes, Colston is a mate of mine, but that’s not the bias here - he would still fit that category, mate or not mate) then someone needs to get paid, hence the annoying ads. I manage to navigate them on my phone but they are annoying I agree. I rely on Colston’s reports and i-follow (and what I read on here sometimes)for keeping me up to date with what has become a casual interest for me this season, so I’m grateful.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 24, 2020 11:08:15 GMT
The club communicates a thousand times better than it used to. As CBH says, Nigel is much more forthcoming with info than JFH was. The speculation that Kieran was about to move just because the club hadn't specified precisely what his injury was bonkers, quite frankly. Why do people insist on putting 2 and 2 together and making 6,000? It might be bonkers but it’s exactly the way normal football fans think and talk. Normal fans get together in normal drinking establishments and talk about their club and this is exactly the normal sort of conversation that goes on. I’d understand you slating the speculation if it was a media thing but as far as I know it was just Britty’s little “normal football fan” theory just like we all have as normal football fans. This forum has developed a bit of a focus on the “learned professional” posters without whose agreement viewpoints aren’t valid. That and a place for links to what I’m sure are well-written articles if only my phone would load them properly rather than immediately clogging up with all the clickbait adverts they are ridden with. I never have understood the regular moan that people think, because someone disagrees with them, they're saying their viewpoint isn't valid. Absolutely never the case. I'm a fan too. I chat in the pub. It's separate from doing my job. Still can't see how a player being injured meant he was leaving, to some.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 24, 2020 11:13:34 GMT
It might be bonkers but it’s exactly the way normal football fans think and talk. Normal fans get together in normal drinking establishments and talk about their club and this is exactly the normal sort of conversation that goes on. I’d understand you slating the speculation if it was a media thing but as far as I know it was just Britty’s little “normal football fan” theory just like we all have as normal football fans. This forum has developed a bit of a focus on the “learned professional” posters without whose agreement viewpoints aren’t valid. That and a place for links to what I’m sure are well-written articles if only my phone would load them properly rather than immediately clogging up with all the clickbait adverts they are ridden with. Yes, maybe we do need to be more tolerant of the “normal” - it’s fine being a smart arse and proving things with pesky facts, but in the pub after the game, all comments and opinions, evidenced or otherwise, are fair game. I do think it is different on public platforms like here and Facebook, but the world has gone mad and false information appears to be “normal” these days. On the issue of the click bait (and I know it is off topic but someone will bring it back I’m sure), the newspapers now have to rely on this for income as hardly anyone buys newspapers anymore. If we want quality sports journalism (and yes, Colston is a mate of mine, but that’s not the bias here - he would still fit that category, mate or not mate) then someone needs to get paid, hence the annoying ads. I manage to navigate them on my phone but they are annoying I agree. I rely on Colston’s reports and i-follow (and what I read on here sometimes)for keeping me up to date with what has become a casual interest for me this season, so I’m grateful. Appreciated, Mark. Would just say it's not the click-bait that's relied upon for income but the adverts themselves. But you're right, your free news has to be paid for somehow. As it happens, enough people still by the paper for it to be in profit and fingers crossed that continues. Luckily, I don't have to deal in click-bait because the powers that be don't think enough people are interested in Burton Albion to warrant it. I'm happy enough going under the radar in that way.
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Post by trevor1946 on Jan 24, 2020 12:57:45 GMT
Communication from source at Burton is slow and to be fair the audience is small,and a lot of speculation or news comes from outside sources. All our transfer activity comes from outside sources, especially if the bigger clubs are involved. Many fans never meet the players, or backroom staff and while the business of running a football club is ongoing every day ,and not just match days. The average fan likes to follow the events taking place on a day to day basis. Knowing things can change on the field or off the field, keeps fans interested. Opinions gossip rumours feed interest and talking points, Colston since you came back you give some interesting column time and banter. But i would think you are in the hub,and we know many things have to stay in house, many fans get snippets on social media and talk about it [ gossip ] Following the club you only get the facts after they have happened,on social media perhaps before they happen Jamie Murphy a good example. We lose out has Brewers because media interest is small, And as fans we can speculate with each other
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 24, 2020 14:30:18 GMT
Communication from source at Burton is slow and to be fair the audience is small,and a lot of speculation or news comes from outside sources. All our transfer activity comes from outside sources, especially if the bigger clubs are involved. Many fans never meet the players, or backroom staff and while the business of running a football club is ongoing every day ,and not just match days. The average fan likes to follow the events taking place on a day to day basis. Knowing things can change on the field or off the field, keeps fans interested. Opinions gossip rumours feed interest and talking points, Colston since you came back you give some interesting column time and banter. But i would think you are in the hub,and we know many things have to stay in house, many fans get snippets on social media and talk about it [ gossip ] Following the club you only get the facts after they have happened,on social media perhaps before they happen Jamie Murphy a good example. We lose out has Brewers because media interest is small, And as fans we can speculate with each other I prefer facts to speculation, personally. And I mean that as a fan, not a reporter. I do accept that I might be in a minority on that. The danger these days is that there is a lot more speculation... and much of it is completely made up.
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Post by britty on Jan 24, 2020 19:53:27 GMT
It might be bonkers but it’s exactly the way normal football fans think and talk. Normal fans get together in normal drinking establishments and talk about their club and this is exactly the normal sort of conversation that goes on. I’d understand you slating the speculation if it was a media thing but as far as I know it was just Britty’s little “normal football fan” theory just like we all have as normal football fans. This forum has developed a bit of a focus on the “learned professional” posters without whose agreement viewpoints aren’t valid. That and a place for links to what I’m sure are well-written articles if only my phone would load them properly rather than immediately clogging up with all the clickbait adverts they are ridden with. I never have understood the regular moan that people think, because someone disagrees with them, they're saying their viewpoint isn't valid. Absolutely never the case. I'm a fan too. I chat in the pub. It's separate from doing my job. Still can't see how a player being injured meant he was leaving, to some. For the avoidance of any doubt I have not ever assumed that an injury meant Wallace was leaving. My speculation was based on: the club either saying Wallace had an "illness" or didn't mention him at all before games, BBC derby asking a question about keeping hold of Wallace and Clough giving an "under contract response", and Clough stating we had interest in a "few" players. I don't think it is completely bonkers that in this situation 2 + 2 may have actually equaled 6,000. Also for the avoidance of doubt if the club had said back on boxing Day "Wallace picked up an injury in training" then I don't think any speculation would have been made by anyone.
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Post by colstoncrawford on Jan 24, 2020 21:07:25 GMT
Just for the record, I've not accused any particular person of suggesting he was going. Several others said similar on Facebook (some of which may also be posters here).
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Post by bancroft on Feb 25, 2021 14:42:06 GMT
according to the internet, Wallace has done his ACL during the Charlton Match
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Post by superbrewer on Feb 25, 2021 16:31:14 GMT
Terrible news for the lad .Hopefully everything goes right for him over the coming months on his road to recovery .
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Post by mikeyboy on Feb 25, 2021 18:23:20 GMT
So sad to hear about Kieron. P
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