|
|
Post by broomo on Nov 27, 2019 22:40:15 GMT
Some point over the next couple of times you interview NC could you ask if there's any update on the situation of the key players who will be out of contract in the summer and free to negotiate with other clubs from January?
Thinking specifically of Fraser and Boyce but I'm fairly sure due to the nature of the deals we offer, there will be more in a similar position.
Will we need to consider proactively looking to sell any player who won't extend in January?
|
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Nov 28, 2019 11:44:23 GMT
Broomo,
I know it was aimed at Colston but just to point out, in case you weren’t aware....players are only free to talk pre-contracts in January if they are looking to move to another country. If they are moving within the same country they can only talk within the last month of their contract.
The six month thing will only apply if they are looking to move back to Scotland or play ‘non-domestically’
|
|
|
|
Post by broomo on Nov 28, 2019 12:28:53 GMT
Broomo, I know it was aimed at Colston but just to point out, in case you weren’t aware....players are only free to talk pre-contracts in January if they are looking to move to another country. If they are moving within the same country they can only talk within the last month of their contract. The six month thing will only apply if they are looking to move back to Scotland or play ‘non-domestically’ [br Thanks cbh1. I didn't know that. Gives us a bit of time to see where which division we're in. I suspect and hope we at least try to get them extended before going into that last month though. Would be gutted to see either of them leave on a free. A good cup run wouldn't do any harm, swell the coffers. |
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Nov 28, 2019 12:52:55 GMT
That's ok mate. A lot of people are under the impression that players can talk to anybody they want from January when in reality it is only non-domestically that they can do that. Of course none of us are naïve enough to think that behind the scenes, I am sure, agents are at play trying to line things up well ahead of time etc.
Agents will also be in their clients ears either advising them to sign or hold off on signing as well so as much we will be trying to persuade the players to sign it may well be a case of being able to lead them to water but the agents telling them not to drink (because they cant think for themselves!)
Certainly a good cup run helped us last year with things like Lucas' contract extension, same with Quinny and one or two others. It would be great to do the same again this year. We have a number of senior players out of contract in the summer. Would be nice to tie one or two down early again if the finances are there to do it. Scotty and Boycey must be at the top of that list if possible.
|
|
|
|
Post by bancroft on Nov 28, 2019 12:59:33 GMT
Who do we reckon is out of contract this summer?
Fraser
Boyce
Buxton
Bywater
Brayford
Daniel
Sbarra
Templeton
quite a few of our better players it seems
|
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Nov 28, 2019 13:16:21 GMT
Who do we reckon is out of contract this summer? Fraser Boyce Buxton Bywater Brayford Daniel Sbarra Templeton quite a few of our better players it seems Quinn Sarkic Anderson Plus our loan players returning to parent clubs O’Hara Nartey Broadhead That’s a fair chunk of our squad to be fair. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 13:34:22 GMT
Broomo, I know it was aimed at Colston but just to point out, in case you weren’t aware....players are only free to talk pre-contracts in January if they are looking to move to another country. If they are moving within the same country they can only talk within the last month of their contract. The six month thing will only apply if they are looking to move back to Scotland or play ‘non-domestically’ Well whilst that may be the rule, I am sure it doesn't work like that. |
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Nov 28, 2019 14:10:53 GMT
Broomo, I know it was aimed at Colston but just to point out, in case you weren’t aware....players are only free to talk pre-contracts in January if they are looking to move to another country. If they are moving within the same country they can only talk within the last month of their contract. The six month thing will only apply if they are looking to move back to Scotland or play ‘non-domestically’ Well whilst that may be the rule, I am sure it doesn't work like that. Yes, as per my second post, with agents involved etc I am sure there are ways and means around it. |
|
|
|
Post by trevor1946 on Nov 28, 2019 14:18:12 GMT
Certainly a wake up call for our finances, if we continue with small gates at one point could lose to many first team players, even with cup runs we have to really progress to the late stages if we are to make money. top half league 1 is a big ask year on year, Next home match Southend could be interesting.
Boyce=Templeton=Quinn=Buxton=Brayford=Sarkic=O"Hara=Broadhead=Nartley. 9 of our first team squad ,Even Nigel would struggle with that. players we want leaving will always be a problem for any manager, and this level of football will take a big ask for any Burton Albion manager.
And though he has not played a major role yet, i would miss Sbarra
|
|
|
|
Post by colstoncrawford on Nov 28, 2019 18:57:28 GMT
Agents will also be in their clients ears ... telling them not to drink... Sorry mate.... couldn't resist the edit in the light of recent events elsewhere  Broomo, yes, we'll ask but I suspect the answer will be the usual... "there have been a few chats but we've got xx games in the next few weeks..." People often ask about the contracts situation... everything tends to work out fine in the end. |
|
|
|
Post by broomo on Nov 28, 2019 23:14:22 GMT
Agents will also be in their clients ears ... telling them not to drink... Sorry mate.... couldn't resist the edit in the light of recent events elsewhere Broomo, yes, we'll ask but I suspect the answer will be the usual... "there have been a few chats but we've got xx games in the next few weeks..." People often ask about the contracts situation... everything tends to work out fine in the end. I may be wrong but I get the impression Scott trusts Nigel to do what's right for his career. There's enough evidence already to show he won't stand in a players way if the move is a step up for them. Marcus H being a prime example. I remember when the Bray was considering a move from Derby to Cardiff, as much as Nigel wanted him to stay, I believe he advised him to take the opportunity to join a Premier League club as it may not come around twice. I am biased but I honestly believe Nigel usually puts the players interests very high on his list. Probably comes down to the way his transfer from Forest to Liverpool was handled. If the player is loyal to Nigel and the club, he'll be loyal back. I hope Scotty signs an extension, even if it's just to make sure we remove, or increase any minimum fee release clause that may be there. |
|
|
|
Post by broomo on Dec 27, 2019 13:24:41 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by colstoncrawford on Dec 27, 2019 13:43:41 GMT
I read a tweet from an anonymous person trying to make out he is an agent of some sort suggesting Cardiff were interested. The tweeter has a punt on about 10 players a day who have been playing well. He used a picture of Scott in a Dundee shirt (and was probably not authorised to nick that picture either). This is not me stating categorically that Cardiff are not interested (I don't know) but it does always amaze me how a tweet from an anonymous person is taken as "must be true" by some who tend to think the legitimate news sources aren't reliable. Herb Croken (I don't know whether or not he is on here in some guise these days) posted "that's Scotty gone then" as if the transfer had been announced by both clubs, not merely tweeted by someone unnamed who he doesn't know! Rant over! |
|
|
|
Post by broomo on Dec 27, 2019 13:50:51 GMT
I read a tweet from an anonymous person trying to make out he is an agent of some sort suggesting Cardiff were interested. The tweeter has a punt on about 10 players a day who have been playing well. He used a picture of Scott in a Dundee shirt (and was probably not authorised to nick that picture either). This is not me stating categorically that Cardiff are not interested (I don't know) but it does always amaze me how a tweet from an anonymous person is taken as "must be true" by some who tend to think the legitimate news sources aren't reliable. Herb Croken (I don't know whether or not he is on here in some guise these days) posted "that's Scotty gone then" as if the transfer had been announced by both clubs, not merely tweeted by someone unnamed who he doesn't know! Rant over! Fair points and I should know better than most not to take internet rumours seriously. Having said that, I've been saying for 6 months now that if Scott isn't on the radar of all clubs in the Championship then their scouts are missing a trick. If Herb posted that, that usually means it's guaranteed he's staying. I've never seen a bloke get so much wrong about football yet still value his own opinion more than he does. |
|
|
|
Post by cbh1 on Dec 27, 2019 14:03:02 GMT
I always find it easier to look at the past tweeting history of most of these ‘transfer centre/hub’ accounts to see what they have for right or wrong in the past. That particular one doesn’t have the greatest track record to be honest.
|
|
|
|
Post by fergo on Dec 27, 2019 14:26:49 GMT
Great wee article that! He will go eventually as for me one of our best ever signings. He isnt a tackler but on the ball and vision are certainly Championship standard and great left foot. |
|
|
|
Post by colstoncrawford on Dec 27, 2019 17:11:42 GMT
Great wee article that! He will go eventually as for me one of our best ever signings. He isnt a tackler but on the ball and vision are certainly Championship standard and great left foot. Agree tackling isn't his strong point but he did win the ball back to start the move that led to his goal yesterday. |
|
|
|
Post by broomo on Dec 27, 2019 18:41:35 GMT
Great wee article that! He will go eventually as for me one of our best ever signings. He isnt a tackler but on the ball and vision are certainly Championship standard and great left foot. Agree tackling isn't his strong point but he did win the ball back to start the move that led to his goal yesterday. He's not a tackler but he does nick a lot of balls off players toes as he tracks back, He certainly puts a shift in. He's arguably he best we've ever had a driving us forward with the ball at his fee though. Id he had 18 months left he'd be worth 1.5 - 2m easily. |
|
|
|
Post by fergo on Dec 27, 2019 19:03:04 GMT
Great wee article that! He will go eventually as for me one of our best ever signings. He isnt a tackler but on the ball and vision are certainly Championship standard and great left foot. Agree tackling isn't his strong point but he did win the ball back to start the move that led to his goal yesterday. Yeah he did. Just watched the highlights on YouTube. Obviously been working hard on all aspects of his game. |
|
