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Post by mikeyboy on Mar 17, 2019 17:28:10 GMT
It was interesting to see the crowd figure yesterday was just over 2700 with 507 away fans. Blackpool had attracted around 16,000 home fans the previous week and I did anticipate a decent following. Sadly it didn’t happen as at the start of the week they believed that we had allocated only 240 seat tickets and that the away end was going to be closed.
I rang Burton Albion and told them that they were misjudging the situation and was told the away end was being opened but even as late as Wednesday the lady I spoke to wasn’t sure if it was pay on the gate and she wouldn’t be able to tell me till Thursday as it was the Ticketing Manager’s day off. I did put a post on the Blackpool forum to let them know that the away end was open and that I believed they could pay on the gate but by then it was probably too little too late to plan a trip.
Today there are postings on the Blackpool forum disgusted about losing to ‘little Burton Albion’ but others saying that it was a great day out in Burton and that the Coopers Tavern was the best pub at any Football League location.
It just got me thinking ‘could we exploit this more?’, with so many real ale pubs in the town, the National Brewery Centre, standing still available at the ground etc etc.
I’d have thought it would be relatively easy to have attracted another 500 or so yesterday with a bit of positive spin and a few postings on the oppositions forums, which would have been an extra £10,000 into the Brewers coffers (maybe 3 extra in our squad) but creating a better atmosphere to boot too. Maybe this could be done through the club’s media team or the SLG? As a positive step to improve our crowds and more enjoyable matchday experience/better atmosphere for everyone..
We have tried to get home numbers up without much success, what about improving things through getting more visiting fans?
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Post by bartonyellow on Mar 17, 2019 20:38:49 GMT
Away supporters do travel well to the Pirelli anyway as we are central in the country and cheap and easy to get to.
What we need to do is the attract more to the home ends and for that I have no idea except not having 3 sides of the ground as terracing which puts people off in my opinion.
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Post by bennyboy on Mar 17, 2019 21:49:45 GMT
I watch loads of TV football, most of the grounds in any league the away fans stand anyway. I don't know why they bother with seats behind the goals as most go unused during play.
That's not to say we couldn't do with more seating at the Pirelli somewhere, may attract those fans that need/want a seat. Can't say it'll bring thousands in though only if we get higher, like the past two seasons before this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 22:36:29 GMT
It was interesting to see the crowd figure yesterday was just over 2700 with 507 away fans. Blackpool had attracted around 16,000 home fans the previous week and I did anticipate a decent following. Sadly it didn’t happen as at the start of the week they believed that we had allocated only 240 seat tickets and that the away end was going to be closed. I rang Burton Albion and told them that they were misjudging the situation and was told the away end was being opened but even as late as Wednesday the lady I spoke to wasn’t sure if it was pay on the gate and she wouldn’t be able to tell me till Thursday as it was the Ticketing Manager’s day off. I did put a post on the Blackpool forum to let them know that the away end was open and that I believed they could pay on the gate but by then it was probably too little too late to plan a trip. Today there are postings on the Blackpool forum disgusted about losing to ‘little Burton Albion’ but others saying that it was a great day out in Burton and that the Coopers Tavern was the best pub at any Football League location. It just got me thinking ‘could we exploit this more?’, with so many real ale pubs in the town, the National Brewery Centre, standing still available at the ground etc etc. I’d have thought it would be relatively easy to have attracted another 500 or so yesterday with a bit of positive spin and a few postings on the oppositions forums, which would have been an extra £10,000 into the Brewers coffers (maybe 3 extra in our squad) but creating a better atmosphere to boot too. Maybe this could be done through the club’s media team or the SLG? As a positive step to improve our crowds and more enjoyable matchday experience/better atmosphere for everyone.. We have tried to get home numbers up without much success, what about improving things through getting more visiting fans? Its like a number of people have said on here the committed home supporters dont extend much beyond 2000. There has been an alarming fall in ave home attendences this season of over 30%. Cant blame all that on away supporters can we. Its much more than that including the less than successful home campaign this season |
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Post by annable on Mar 17, 2019 23:05:09 GMT
It was interesting to see the crowd figure yesterday was just over 2700 with 507 away fans. Blackpool had attracted around 16,000 home fans the previous week and I did anticipate a decent following. Sadly it didn’t happen as at the start of the week they believed that we had allocated only 240 seat tickets and that the away end was going to be closed. I rang Burton Albion and told them that they were misjudging the situation and was told the away end was being opened but even as late as Wednesday the lady I spoke to wasn’t sure if it was pay on the gate and she wouldn’t be able to tell me till Thursday as it was the Ticketing Manager’s day off. I did put a post on the Blackpool forum to let them know that the away end was open and that I believed they could pay on the gate but by then it was probably too little too late to plan a trip. Today there are postings on the Blackpool forum disgusted about losing to ‘little Burton Albion’ but others saying that it was a great day out in Burton and that the Coopers Tavern was the best pub at any Football League location. It just got me thinking ‘could we exploit this more?’, with so many real ale pubs in the town, the National Brewery Centre, standing still available at the ground etc etc. I’d have thought it would be relatively easy to have attracted another 500 or so yesterday with a bit of positive spin and a few postings on the oppositions forums, which would have been an extra £10,000 into the Brewers coffers (maybe 3 extra in our squad) but creating a better atmosphere to boot too. Maybe this could be done through the club’s media team or the SLG? As a positive step to improve our crowds and more enjoyable matchday experience/better atmosphere for everyone.. We have tried to get home numbers up without much success, what about improving things through getting more visiting fans? We haven't done enough in my opinion to try and get more people through the gate. I think that with the success of recent seasons and the fact that we were in the Championship lulled the club into thinking that people would just turn up regardless and we would sell out every week. Despite out lofty position it turned out that the Burton public were effected by the quality of performance on the pitch where there was definitely a drop off in attendance in the second Championship season than the first as performances got worse. I also think that people's perceptions were that it was too difficult to get a ticket especially if you didn't have a record at the ticket office and I know a number of people who were turned away as they couldn't prove they were from Burton. At times it felt as if it were easier to get on a plane and fly to the other side of the world than it was to get into the Pirelli and see a Championship football match! Unfortunately the moment has now passed and we are just left with the hardcore again. |
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Post by mikeyboy on Mar 18, 2019 23:16:59 GMT
I do agree that more could be done and that largely it is about organisation, putting the effort in and ease of being able to purchase.
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Post by insideleft on Mar 19, 2019 9:18:02 GMT
This is a long standing debate on here. I think it fair to say that the lack of seating is now always going to be a restriction to attracting more of the occasional fans as is the slight/sometimes confusing difficulties in getting a ticket. On the latter people really do want it to be easy; often going to the match is a Saturday morning/Friday night decision. Certainly if I polled occasional fans I know at work,golf and cricket they would cite those issues.
To be fair the hard core support has gone from 450 to 2000 over 20 years. How long does it take? What is achievable? Have other clubs done better than us? Stevenage, Yeovil, Cheltenham. Morecambe, Newport ….are they comparable clubs? Or are we more a Crewe, Colchester, Mansfield….? Is a 3000 hard core support achievable ? It should be?
I sometimes think we could do with appointing a marketing type chief exec to see how he/she would tackle attendances and income streams.
To be fair also the club does do an awful lot in the community and in supporting kids football both girls and boys, maybe in time that will grow the fan base although I think that is where you do need more seating.
I think mikeboy offers an interesting angle in tackling away support. Burton is very central for travel, easily accessible, what can we do to attract more
I consider myself a 100% regular football fan yet I don’t go anywhere near to as many away games as I used to. That is purely down to the way away fans are treated. Watching us at Charlton on IFollow last week. Huge empty stands, huge sections on the half way line completely empty, best seats in the ground, and yet our fans are housed or told they have to sit, in the corner, behind the goal, farthest point from the game, at probably prices way above what the home fans paid.
I get the impression fans really enjoy the day out to Burton because it is easy to get to, I suspect our pricing is fair and the pubs are good and cheap. Maybe we should develop that although the worry is you could get more away fans than home quite easily making it a home game for the visitors!
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Post by trevor1946 on Mar 19, 2019 11:20:58 GMT
Burton albion are a very poorly supported football club ,Most people gly strolluroing to games are amongst thousands of supporters creating a nervous,exiting environment before a ball is kicked, Any club under 20-000 plus are cannon fodder to the big clubs .Of coarse fans of the Brewers are just as committed but oh so few in numbers,
Watching Burton is like going to the theatre,taking your place 5 minutes before kick off ,then at half time taking a leisurely stroll for refreshments,After the game a steady walk and leave the ground and away---point being at most clubs Derby--Forest Villa the list is endless you would still be leaving the car park.
Watching Burton is like visiting a country club. And the shame is When 1600 or more away fans come,fans complain of supporters in the home end,and car parks being full,Shock and awe their tranquill world is disturbed, But with all our success on the field and the club way above its fan base,even made the Championship when away fans came in their thousands,and now in league 1 - a club with limited support,expectations top 6.from a lot of supporters,or will forgive failure after a good cup run.But must improve next season. And to be a normal club we pay our money and can boo players--manager--and the chairman if action is not taken this has performed miracles,and must continue. Even Blackpool a club in turmoil,having a meltdown [they played poor] they cannot like many accept being beat by such a small club--2200 turned up to witness it
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Post by trevor1946 on Mar 19, 2019 12:31:25 GMT
Aim of any club increase revenue,and burton have a small fan base --6 clubs in non league matched saturdays gate-4 beat it,expecting to be competitive in league 1 shows how well run this club is. trying to get 6000 or more at home games is the next phase to maintain league 1 status
Car park--bus park,seems o -k==== Home end=standing ok---away end standing o-k,Seating hospitality-o-k,---So where is the extra revenue.
The ground needs to be a theatre of football,and like Wembley split in two halves,with the east terrace being seated and corners seated to maintain capacity.
With Burton having no clubs we have been competitive with,crowd trouble should be controllable .With our 2-500. and accommodation for away support,with local teams this could increase revenue,accommodating 2 500 away supporters 1 400 seated,and the rest standing.
With a movable barrier on the west stand,we could dictate how many away fans each game.
Visiting Burton should be a matchday experience,and a day to enjoy ,---If a target is met,and we have 6000-people around the pirelli.
We are still small fry .6000 fans at a game,look at league 1 20 clubs have around that figure, 6 have 10,000 or more.
The top 3 in league 1 =31-500==18-100==16.035----keeping out of the championship 30-000 pluses..monitoring 6000.and segregating fans.
we have had 4 years,to realize,we are not a normal club,and need to welcome fans as well a club officials
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Post by sinfinbovril on Mar 19, 2019 19:41:35 GMT
I love the idea of massive away crowds. We've had some amazing nights - I remember Port Vale made a right racket. Rotherham, Bournemouth, Wycombe - it definitely adds to the experience.
A great atmosphere makes it more enjoyable and therefore people may return.
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Post by mikeyboy on Mar 19, 2019 19:48:44 GMT
Some good points Trev. Was in corporate on Saturday and only about 6 tables were occupied, approx 60 out of a capacity of 350.
From my own observations the club itself, the community trust, the SLG, or the fans themselves need to do something to uplift crowds and enhance the matchday experience. If we need to do this through attracting away fans in bigger numbers, then so be it!! Up the Brewers!
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Post by NobodyGood on Mar 19, 2019 20:46:14 GMT
We need paper clappers!
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