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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 11:07:27 GMT
At the start of this season I think a lot of us had concerns about the defensive positions in terms of age, pace, ability to stay fit etc. I think that concern has proved right to some extent where not one single defender has been available for every game i.e they have all had injuries of varying degrees at some point in the season. Our back line was always going to need an overhaul at some point and that process has started now and maybe Ben is unfortunate that at this moment in time he is out for 4-6 weeks so he was the obvious choice to go. With Kyle, Jake, Brayford and Damo out of contract in the summer I would be surprised if more than a couple of them were with us next season. The central defensive position is the one area of the pitch where a consistent relationship is required and we haven't had that this season where it has mainly been two of four dependant on who is available. No real consistent pairing. The other thing that may have been in NC's decision to release Ben is that we have ended up with Damo still under contract and presumably going nowhere until the summer and he can slot in at centre back as well as his performance against Man City showed where he looked decent. Just think that may have been part of the thinking given that the release of Ben was announced at 10.55pm on transfer deadline day. Maybe if Damo had gone then we could have afforded to keep Ben until the end of the season. Maybe? the fact as you say that Turners departure wasnt announced until 5 to 11 may be due to him wanting to find another club before leaving the brewers and he probably has? In terms of a settled Cb partnership, you are again right its important to have a settled pairing and we had finally found that in our first year in the champ in Ben and Kyle. There was never any need to bring in Buxton (and Warnock). They had just been relegated with Wigan to Div 1. Surely, if as many say we need to look to the future, we should if anything have brought ina young loanee. Many of us believe if Kyle and ben had played a handful more games together last season we wouldnt have gone down. For those who question this, do me a favour and check the stats last season on kyle and ben playing together in the league. Games played W L D and seeing as the manager has been complaining how many clean sheets we are failing to achieve at this lower level, perhaps check how many they they acheived at a higher level. Then put it on here. I dont think any of us will need to say anymore after that. What was Wigan's defensive record when they were relegated from the Championship?
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Post by NobodyGood on Feb 2, 2019 11:11:59 GMT
All of our business on transfer deadline day was announced very late on. But just because Sky want to ratchet up hype by suggesting everything is done at the last minute, it doesn't mean it was. Maybe all the deals were finalised at 10.55pm or maybe tgey were all done at 2.17pm and just announced later. The club announces it. Not sky...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 11:21:22 GMT
All of our business on transfer deadline day was announced very late on. But just because Sky want to ratchet up hype by suggesting everything is done at the last minute, it doesn't mean it was. Maybe all the deals were finalised at 10.55pm or maybe tgey were all done at 2.17pm and just announced later. The club announces it. Not sky... I'm aware of that, I was suggesting Sky's coverage overhypes the event with reported freezing outside clubs late at night suggesting there are loads of last minute deals. The reality is most business is done much earlier. Usually 2.17pm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 17:57:20 GMT
Apparently he has signed for Mansfield Town.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:00:28 GMT
All of our business on transfer deadline day was announced very late on. But just because Sky want to ratchet up hype by suggesting everything is done at the last minute, it doesn't mean it was. Maybe all the deals were finalised at 10.55pm or maybe tgey were all done at 2.17pm and just announced later. The club announces it. Not sky... Correct
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:01:57 GMT
Apparently he has signed for Mansfield Town. Good luck to him. A very progressive club and a new challenge for him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:02:36 GMT
Apparently he has signed for Mansfield Town. Well that’s just censored.word up imo
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Post by NobodyGood on Feb 2, 2019 18:05:39 GMT
Haha. Until the end of the season. So basically the same length of contract as we had him on.... Wonderful.
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Post by rhys0204 on Feb 2, 2019 18:09:21 GMT
Apparently he has signed for Mansfield Town. Poor bastard, wouldn't wish 6 months in that shithole on my worst enemy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:15:35 GMT
I think Mansfield may well have started to understand how to run a club, they have been, until recently running at a fairly neutral financial way. But, they did hire Steve Evans and sack him, there may well be some problems ahead. And they seem to have a £4.5million debt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:46:09 GMT
I think Mansfield may well have started to understand how to run a club, they have been, until recently running at a fairly neutral financial way. But, they did hire Steve Evans and sack him, there may well be some problems ahead. And they seem to have a £4.5million debt. Didnt realise they were doing so well. Only lost 3 games all season and 2nd in the league
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Post by bennyboy on Feb 2, 2019 23:01:44 GMT
I can't understand that one, Turner to Mansfield, he's soon got fixed up?
Would be intersting if we knew the monetary side of things, how much he got with us and from us to terminate his contract and how much Mnasfield are paying him.
It seems like we've helped Mansfield to sign him up for free and freed up having to pay him of course, or did we pay up his contract in part?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:10:37 GMT
I can't understand that one, Turner to Mansfield, he's soon got fixed up? Would be intersting if we knew the monetary side of things, how much he got with us and from us to terminate his contract and how much Mnasfield are paying him. It seems like we've helped Mansfield to sign him up for free and freed up having to pay him of course, or did we pay up his contract in part? Even if we did bennyboy, I suspect it still made financial sense for us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:14:26 GMT
I can't understand that one, Turner to Mansfield, he's soon got fixed up? Would be intersting if we knew the monetary side of things, how much he got with us and from us to terminate his contract and how much Mnasfield are paying him. It seems like we've helped Mansfield to sign him up for free and freed up having to pay him of course, or did we pay up his contract in part? Even if we did bennyboy, I suspect it still made financial sense for us. Just goes to show that if your right, every player at our club is dispensible to us if the moneyor finances dictate. On this occasion I think weve got it badly wrong in terms of losing a very good player
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:16:26 GMT
Even if we did bennyboy, I suspect it still made financial sense for us. Just goes to show that if your right, every player at oyr club is dispensible to us if the money is right As it is at every club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:29:23 GMT
Just goes to show that if your right, every player at oyr club is dispensible to us if the money is right As it is at every club. Thats probably correct too and thats why when your playing resources are as thin as ours you make sure you release the right players if that is necessary. Problem is we havent done on this occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:33:16 GMT
Thats probably correct too and thats why when your playing resources are as thin as ours you make sure you release the right players if that is necessary. Problem is we havent done on this occasion. In your opinion. Who would you have released?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:39:13 GMT
Thats probably correct too and thats why when your playing resources are as thin as ours you make sure you release the right players if that is necessary. Problem is we havent done on this occasion. In your opinion. Who would you have released? Buxton without a shadow of a doubt at 34 and almost certainly in his last year as a player having already taken his coaching badges. We will now have to find at least two centre backs next season and thats assuming we perservere with right back Brayford playing CB which is just folly and will not work
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Post by NobodyGood on Feb 2, 2019 23:41:04 GMT
In your opinion. Who would you have released? Buxton without a shadow of a doubt and almost certainly in his last year as a player having already taken his coaching badges. We will now have to find at least two centre backs next season and thats assuming we perservere with right back Brayford playing CB which is just folly and will not work Buxton is quite good. Oddly, if we have Clarke and Akins who can play right back (2x) it maybe should have been, dare I say it, Brayford?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 23:52:18 GMT
Buxton without a shadow of a doubt and almost certainly in his last year as a player having already taken his coaching badges. We will now have to find at least two centre backs next season and thats assuming we perservere with right back Brayford playing CB which is just folly and will not work Buxton is quite good. Oddly, if we have Clarke and Akins who can play right back (2x) it maybe should have been, dare I say it, Brayford? If i am right and buxton retires at the end of the season, we will have only one proper CB here next season. Also its no good relying on clarke other than for the next 16 games, he will go back to brentford or be sold
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