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Post by bobgauden on Jan 20, 2019 9:35:12 GMT
18 games left- 54 points to play for, 11 points behind 6th place. If we're serious about a push and I do believe we are then we can't see the gap widen any. Still achievable imo.
I believe the football we're playing in the main is some of the best I've ever witnessed from a Burton side. Nigel has got us playing excellent football and a few tweaks here and there could see us cut out the errors at the back whilst being more clinical in our finishing. Turning these draws into wins....
We've two home games up next and games we're more than capable of getting 4+ points from.
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Post by annable on Jan 20, 2019 9:47:30 GMT
18 games left- 54 points to play for, 11 points behind 6th place. If we're serious about a push and I do believe we are then we can't see the gap widen any. Still achievable imo. I believe the football we're playing in the main is some of the best I've ever witnessed from a Burton side. Nigel has got us playing excellent football and a few tweaks here and there could see us cut out the errors at the back whilst being more clinical in our finishing. Turning these draws into wins.... We've two home games up next and games we're more than capable of getting 4+ points from. I think getting into the play offs this season will be a stretch from here but we are certainly more than capable of beating any team in the league on our day. As mentioned in another thread I think we need to finish this season strongly with a view to taking momentum into next season. To do this we need a stable squad that is already 80 - 90% complete which is what I think the latest contract extensions and proposed signings are attempting to achieve. |
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Post by NobodyGood on Jan 20, 2019 10:19:47 GMT
We should, and could, have had an extra 3 points last week and 2 points yesterday, then we'd only be 6 behind.
I think a crazy run is needed.
If we do get to the play offs, the form we'd be in would probably lead us back to the championship.
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Post by insideleft on Jan 20, 2019 11:49:49 GMT
We all get home after a game and study the table and think if only we…………………….
Realistically it would take a 5'ish game run of wins in a row at some point pretty soon. Not impossible at all but unlikely?
A case really of building/securing a squad, playing some decent football, getting some results and establishing ourselves in the division.
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Post by bennyboy on Jan 20, 2019 11:58:35 GMT
We need revenge for the earlier defeats to the next two teams coming up at home in the league. We've gone on to prove we are better than those and with our league positions x theirs should be getting a decent points return from them.
We know it doesn't always work that way but if we don't see max points from those two games I can't see us in the play-offs come May.
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Post by trevor1946 on Jan 20, 2019 12:11:31 GMT
We should and could have lost both games.this season has been very hit and miss,we have lost two many points.If we consolidate and finish in the top half.
being on the front foot can only be achieved by a good team, We are clearly not. From 8th to 16th is very tight and even the bottom clubs are getting results.
The Brewers are rebuilding and the Academy players are getting vast experience and will be more developed body wise. We are now hopefully in a position thae cant keeps league 1 football at the Pirelli ,We can only grow as a club, putting to much expectation on the field is not fair, Play offs not for me.
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Post by emnez on Jan 20, 2019 12:37:11 GMT
We should and could have lost both games.this season has been very hit and miss,we have lost two many points.If we consolidate and finish in the top half. being on the front foot can only be achieved by a good team, We are clearly not. From 8th to 16th is very tight and even the bottom clubs are getting results. The Brewers are rebuilding and the Academy players are getting vast experience and will be more developed body wise. We are now hopefully in a position thae cant keeps league 1 football at the Pirelli ,We can only grow as a club, putting to much expectation on the field is not fair, Play offs not for me. For me Trev the playoffs would be an unexpected bonus as the last few games have gone.I am with you on this one lets get the squad sorted and make a major assault on league 1 next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:52:14 GMT
I know the club is aiming for play offs but my target was mid table and we are on course for that.
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Post by Norah on Jan 20, 2019 13:02:55 GMT
I know the club is aiming for play offs but my target was mid table and we are on course for that. I do not actually want us to get into the playoffs this year. 7th to 10th will do me thanks. I don’t know about the rest of you, but although I have recovered.. well almost... from last year, I don’t want the emotional turmoil , the financial burden and most of all a trip to Wembley with all that might contain. Heaven forfend that we might actually win it too and find ourselves in the Chsmpionship again. Disagree with me if you will, but I think it would not be good for the team / club. To me we need a good and solidly “unspectacular” finish that will be the basis of us establishing ourselves at this level.. to perhaps go on and up the future.... with an “established squad” as has been mentioned and some younger player brought in to replace some legs that are going to be a little older and slower than they are now... ...besides which I’ve booked a holiday just after the season ends....  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 13:11:14 GMT
I think the club “have” to aim for play offs and promotion because, well, that’s sort of the point. You don’t generally plan for failure but it is generally accepted (I think) that you aim at the top end of what you realistically expect. If we got into the Championship again for next season (unlikely but still possible) then Ben and Nigel would plan and sort just like they did last time. For me though, I entirely agree with you Norah - consolidate strongly and continue the rebuild.
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Post by Norah on Jan 20, 2019 13:36:22 GMT
I think the club “have” to aim for play offs and promotion because, well, that’s sort of the point. You don’t generally plan for failure but it is generally accepted (I think) that you aim at the top end of what you realistically expect. If we got into the Championship again for next season (unlikely but still possible) then Ben and Nigel would plan and sort just like they did last time. For me though, I entirely agree with you Norah - consolidate strongly and continue the rebuild. Yep, a club should try it’s best ( good point, well made) and I certainly used to...” quietly disagree” with views in previous years that stated that ...Robinson and Clough don’t want promotion.... so I suppose now I could be accused of selfishly doing the same?  But looking at the teams in League One this year I think it would take a monumental effort to get into one of those last play off places anyway, so my Karma is good. COYB |
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Post by NobodyGood on Jan 20, 2019 13:44:58 GMT
Of course, if we do get into the play offs, we surely won't complain...!
They have to aim for it. Its a winning mentality. The second you give up that, you may as well end the season. All were really playing for every match now is play offs, and pride, as we're pretty much safe.
One to discuss after the season is over, I think!
For me, these posts, settling for what we have rather than striving for more, are more damaging than those criticising the players, if we assume they read here.
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Post by insideleft on Jan 20, 2019 15:25:33 GMT
Of course, if we do get into the play offs, we surely won't complain...! They have to aim for it. Its a winning mentality. The second you give up that, you may as well end the season. All were really playing for every match now is play offs, and pride, as we're pretty much safe. One to discuss after the season is over, I think! For me, these posts, settling for what we have rather than striving for more, are more damaging than those criticising the players, if we assume they read here. To an extent I agree with you Nobody. If we as fans become complacent and settle too easily for something less than the best then……………….as Ilson says “What’s the point”……………..
I’m sure we all go to every game wanting to win and hoping to get into those top places. The players do and Cloughie does.
I think it’s about expectation though if we don’t win a game, my default setting isn’t to slag the manager or the players off. It’s to be realistic about it, get behind the club. Negativity doesn't help anybody.
Having said that one thing this season has shown is that even on our budgets and crowds it is possible to compete and do well at this level but I have to say I believe that is because we have a background of stability and somebody like NC. |
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Post by sinfinbovril on Jan 20, 2019 17:18:41 GMT
I'm hoping for a top half finish. I agree with wanting to win every game, of course, but I just don't want us falling to pieces and getting relegated again.
The football we've played this season? It'd be a shame if we finished in the bottom half but maybe we can look at this like the Conference. After five or six years, Nigel built a squad that (let's face it) found that first season in League Two quite easy. We only stopped thinking about the play-offs at Easter with Pesch.
Rebuild. Come back stronger. Keep the books straight. Boring, I know. It's a good job I'm not the manager!!
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Post by mikeyboy on Jan 20, 2019 17:24:23 GMT
I'm hoping for a top half finish. I agree with wanting to win every game, of course, but I just don't want us falling to pieces and getting relegated again. The football we've played this season? It'd be a shame if we finished in the bottom half but maybe we can look at this like the Conference. After five or six years, Nigel built a squad that (let's face it) found that first season in League Two quite easy. We only stopped thinking about the play-offs at Easter with Pesch. Rebuild. Come back stronger. Keep the books straight. Boring, I know. It's a good job I'm not the manager!! The negs might like you taking over sinfin, you probably know a lot more than Cloughie and co. |
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Post by sinfinbovril on Jan 20, 2019 17:44:35 GMT
I'm hoping for a top half finish. I agree with wanting to win every game, of course, but I just don't want us falling to pieces and getting relegated again. The football we've played this season? It'd be a shame if we finished in the bottom half but maybe we can look at this like the Conference. After five or six years, Nigel built a squad that (let's face it) found that first season in League Two quite easy. We only stopped thinking about the play-offs at Easter with Pesch. Rebuild. Come back stronger. Keep the books straight. Boring, I know. It's a good job I'm not the manager!! The negs might like you taking over sinfin, you probably know a lot more than Cloughie and co. Interesting...there again, I don't know as much as the negs. |
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Post by brewersinramland on Jan 21, 2019 14:07:44 GMT
I think the club “have” to aim for play offs and promotion because, well, that’s sort of the point. You don’t generally plan for failure but it is generally accepted (I think) that you aim at the top end of what you realistically expect. If we got into the Championship again for next season (unlikely but still possible) then Ben and Nigel would plan and sort just like they did last time. For me though, I entirely agree with you Norah - consolidate strongly and continue the rebuild. I think we are starting to see a strategy of building a squad for next season and beyond. Bringing on our young players and signing experience (rather than just loans) seems to be the way we're going. All seems very sensible. My big concern is our failure to grow the supporter base despite all the good work in the community. I sometimes wonder how many regular attending supporters we have in the built up area of Burton. 1500? Unless the support can be grown then even League 1 is a very good achievement. |
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Post by trevor1946 on Jan 21, 2019 16:20:45 GMT
I think the club “have” to aim for play offs and promotion because, well, that’s sort of the point. You don’t generally plan for failure but it is generally accepted (I think) that you aim at the top end of what you realistically expect. If we got into the Championship again for next season (unlikely but still possible) then Ben and Nigel would plan and sort just like they did last time. For me though, I entirely agree with you Norah - consolidate strongly and continue the rebuild. I think we are starting to see a strategy of building a squad for next season and beyond. Bringing on our young players and signing experience (rather than just loans) seems to be the way we're going. All seems very sensible. My big concern is our failure to grow the supporter base despite all the good work in the community. I sometimes wonder how many regular attending supporters we have in the built up area of Burton. 1500? Unless the support can be grown then even League 1 is a very good achievement. Spot on , Derby went from 12-000,to 18-000 at the baseball ground,=and then moved to a 30-000 stadium in pride park,has the team evolved so did the fan base,And now are a top championship club,who would not be out of place in the Premier league. Burton Albion have Achieved league 2==league 1==Championship,and the fan base remains small.==League 1 is still a challenge for a club this size .But again events on the field cry out for the capital to improve our squad and challenge clubs who have the facilities to challenge in this league and would not be out of place in the championship .Some fans do not understand what this small club has achieved on the field is unbelievable. 20-000 gates in the championship is poor, 30-000 gates in league 1 has been seen on many occasions==I think we are building a squad to challenge the top half of this league,on a regular basis, And we will see where our fan base takes us,To achieve this with our loyal 3-000 will be a big challenge, i am with cloughthemagicdragon,and Ben of coarse |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 13:18:09 GMT
If we reach the playoffs and succeed then we are a championship club again. If we reach and don't proceed, at least we will be on a bit of an earner (minimum two televised games) that can only help us for next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 13:27:26 GMT
NC suggests we need 78 to 80 pts. Thats another 40 pts from 18 games?
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