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Post by sinfinbovril on Sept 10, 2018 21:29:26 GMT
How incredibly brave. Attitudes ARE changing. Slowly.
This man needs our support. Lots of love flying your way, Marvin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 21:59:06 GMT
It was refreshing to hear Bilky Kee's interview on Saturday. A lad who has had his own demons. Sometimes though I wonder whether collectively we learn. There are still those who prefer to abuse and decry rather than empathise and support.
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Post by trevor1946 on Sept 11, 2018 12:18:12 GMT
Thank you a good read,and a positive insight into the pressures the game can bring to a individual ,Being a professional footballer is the dream most of us have. And on a Saturday we show no mercy and expect 100% from our heroes,and pass our comments on their performance ,How a person copes we leave to the individual and the club.Marvin has achieved what many of us only dream off.And the rewards from playing at the highest standards Marvin has achieved and also felt the downside of the game. We never think of dealing with disappointments only interested in winning,And performances on the pitch,Managers sink or swim on results.And players on their performances. Failures are many very few make to the professional game,and the few that do ,disappointment and achievement are a everyday experience. Confidence and attitude and character help toward success .Marvin has achieved his goal he is a professional footballer .He has every reason to be proud and enjoy life outside of the game. Me i will still comment on life on the pitch.players come and go that is the nature of the beast. |
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Post by noiblanotrub on Sept 13, 2018 12:02:11 GMT
Marvin was interviewed today on the Victoria Derbyshire show BBC2, it’s available on i player .
Would be just great if he gets a goal on Saturday.
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Post by porky on Sept 13, 2018 14:59:59 GMT
Marvin was interviewed today on the Victoria Derbyshire show BBC2, it’s available on i player . Would be just great if he gets a goal on Saturday. It starts at about 34 mins in. Top bloke . He deserves a good round of applause on Saturday |
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Post by observer on Sept 13, 2018 21:06:23 GMT
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Post by superbrewer on Jul 2, 2019 18:07:42 GMT
Does anyone know if Marvin was at training yesterday as I didn't spot him in any of the photos that have been released . Everyone else seems to be there .
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Post by trevor1946 on Jul 3, 2019 10:57:57 GMT
Aint a clue looks to me like football is his last consideration,i was hoping Northampton would take him, you only get out what you put in .
Football is a passionate game, played by the few who have the talent to reach professional status,some have more talent than others,Sordell was one of these he offered
so much,but gave so little.this will be his 3rd season for Burton and he says he his depressed.and so are a lot of Coventry=Burton=Northampton fans.
Carry on writing, leave football to the ones who appreciate how lucky they are and relish every minute,After a lot of movement Burton Albion trusted him with a 3 year contract,as a fan i believe he has betrayed that trust.
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Post by bennyboy on Jul 3, 2019 11:36:52 GMT
A bit harsh Trev but true about his potential, he hasn't really shined that's why he went out on loan.
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Post by broomo on Jul 3, 2019 13:44:48 GMT
Aint a clue looks to me like football is his last consideration,i was hoping Northampton would take him, you only get out what you put in . Football is a passionate game, played by the few who have the talent to reach professional status,some have more talent than others,Sordell was one of these he offered so much,but gave so little.this will be his 3rd season for Burton and he says he his depressed.and so are a lot of Coventry=Burton=Northampton fans. Carry on writing, leave football to the ones who appreciate how lucky they are and relish every minute,After a lot of movement Burton Albion trusted him with a 3 year contract,as a fan i believe he has betrayed that trust. I get where you're coming from Trevor, he's not done enough to fulfill his potential or to warrant the excitement we felt when we signed him and thought we might rekindle his 3m form. Having said that, depression is a horrible illness and despite what people are saying openly about "let's talk about mental health" - the truth is a million miles away from that and as soon as you dare to open up, in my opinion you're finished. Tagged as too weak minded to be strong. I don't know how bad Marvin's depression is but I can say with certainty that if it is bad there will be days where he feels unable to move, unable to talk to anyone and probably unable to look himself in the eyes. That's not conditions conducive to producing your best in any job and definitely not one that requires you to be in peak condition physically and on your toes mentally. I'm glad he's got the security of a decent income, as a human being I hope he's ok and I hope we don't force him to do what he doesn't feel he's able to do mentally. As a football fan I'm gutted he's not produced anywhere near what I expected and hoped for and probably hasn't justified the investment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 17:24:59 GMT
Aint a clue looks to me like football is his last consideration,i was hoping Northampton would take him, you only get out what you put in . Football is a passionate game, played by the few who have the talent to reach professional status,some have more talent than others,Sordell was one of these he offered so much,but gave so little.this will be his 3rd season for Burton and he says he his depressed.and so are a lot of Coventry=Burton=Northampton fans. Carry on writing, leave football to the ones who appreciate how lucky they are and relish every minute,After a lot of movement Burton Albion trusted him with a 3 year contract,as a fan i believe he has betrayed that trust. I get where you're coming from Trevor, he's not done enough to fulfill his potential or to warrant the excitement we felt when we signed him and thought we might rekindle his 3m form. Having said that, depression is a horrible illness and despite what people are saying openly about "let's talk about mental health" - the truth is a million miles away from that and as soon as you dare to open up, in my opinion you're finished. Tagged as too weak minded to be strong. I don't know how bad Marvin's depression is but I can say with certainty that if it is bad there will be days where he feels unable to move, unable to talk to anyone and probably unable to look himself in the eyes. That's not conditions conducive to producing your best in any job and definitely not one that requires you to be in peak condition physically and on your toes mentally. I'm glad he's got the security of a decent income, as a human being I hope he's ok and I hope we don't force him to do what he doesn't feel he's able to do mentally. As a football fan I'm gutted he's not produced anywhere near what I expected and hoped for and probably hasn't justified the investment. That my friend, is an exceptional post. Whatever Marvin is doing, I hope he is well. If he is able to come back playing then he is a talented lad who could still offer much. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 17:27:48 GMT
I thought he’d already left to be honest. Agree with Broomo on this one, wish the lad well but time to move-on from Burton as a player.
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Post by bennyboy on Jul 3, 2019 17:37:21 GMT
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Post by otep on Jul 3, 2019 19:10:09 GMT
I suffer with depression myself and I marvel at how a footballer can cope with depression and be a professional. The apathy towards life, the ambivalence towards what is in front of you, the lethargy that makes putting one foot in front of the other a monumental challenge and the mist inside the head causing disorientation and difficulty in concentrating. How on earth Marvin can get up, train and cope with 90 minutes of football once or twice a week in front of crowds of people is beyond me. Full credit to him for not letting this cruel condition dictate his life.
I dare say it is his depression that has stopped him fulfilling his potential. I despair at what it has done to my career.
In the brighter moments in his life and when the sun has shone through a break in the clouds, Marvin has shown his potential and commanded good transfer fees and wages. He has had some good games for us too. I can still picture him cutting in from the right in the first Championship season and scoring a few. Unfortunately the clouds return. I know that cycle. I can function and I can function well at work even when I am not at 100%. However, football fans will be expecting 100% from their players in every game. Furthermore, football is the sort of game where you do get found out very quickly if you aren't at 100%.
It might be my imagination but ever since Marvin has spoken of his depression, I have looked upon moments in games which he has featured in and seen him do and not do things that I link to his depression. A 'takes one to know one' viewpoint from me.
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Post by broomo on Jul 3, 2019 19:49:54 GMT
Aint a clue looks to me like football is his last consideration,i was hoping Northampton would take him, you only get out what you put in . Football is a passionate game, played by the few who have the talent to reach professional status,some have more talent than others,Sordell was one of these he offered so much,but gave so little.this will be his 3rd season for Burton and he says he his depressed.and so are a lot of Coventry=Burton=Northampton fans. Carry on writing, leave football to the ones who appreciate how lucky they are and relish every minute,After a lot of movement Burton Albion trusted him with a 3 year contract,as a fan i believe he has betrayed that trust. Imagine Royston had wrote the disgraceful post above, all he gets is "bit harsh Trev" it wouldn't be hard to do. The vultures would certainly be circling. Hypocrites. I do agree if the other fella had written it he'd have took more stick. I don't agree it's hypocritical. I can only speak for myself here, I don't know trevor but I know trevor if that makes sense. I know he's not got a nasty bone in his body. That's one of the reason's my offer of a coffee to Royston was a genuine one. I MIGHT be wrong about him as a person, outside of here he may be a cracking bloke and if he is/was I'd be big enough to admit I got it wrong. Trevor (like me and most on here) occasionally posts something that has me thinking "hang on" that's a bit too far BUT he has credit in the bank 'cos he's not nasty with every single post and he's not here to wind people up. I used to argue like mad with Reg (binny) - some really horrible stuff posted between the two of us, threats of violence, the lot. Then I met him and realised that outside of his blind hatred of Nigel, he was a good bloke. So 90% of the time and maybe higher outside of this place, he was a nice fella. I'd have to be an idiot to keep hating him JUST because we disagree 100% on football. Hope that answers it from my side, I'll leave it everyone else to speak for themselves. Be honest though bobg this place is a lot calmer and with a lot less of a nasty edge now Royston isn't posting (or is posting under a different name and calmer) |
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Post by broomo on Jul 3, 2019 20:01:41 GMT
I suffer with depression myself and I marvel at how a footballer can cope with depression and be a professional. The apathy towards life, the ambivalence towards what is in front of you, the lethargy that makes putting one foot in front of the other a monumental challenge and the mist inside the head causing disorientation and difficulty in concentrating. How on earth Marvin can get up, train and cope with 90 minutes of football once or twice a week in front of crowds of people is beyond me. Full credit to him for not letting this cruel condition dictate his life. I dare say it is his depression that has stopped him fulfilling his potential. I despair at what it has done to my career. In the brighter moments in his life and when the sun has shone through a break in the clouds, Marvin has shown his potential and commanded good transfer fees and wages. He has had some good games for us too. I can still picture him cutting in from the right in the first Championship season and scoring a few. Unfortunately the clouds return. I know that cycle. I can function and I can function well at work even when I am not at 100%. However, football fans will be expecting 100% from their players in every game. Furthermore, football is the sort of game where you do get found out very quickly if you aren't at 100%. It might be my imagination but ever since Marvin has spoken of his depression, I have looked upon moments in games which he has featured in and seen him do and not do things that I link to his depression. A 'takes one to know one' viewpoint from me. There are times when the "like" button is the wrong option but it's the only option. I don't like where you or he, or me is head space wise but I like and fully understand where you're coming from, I love the understanding you're showing but I hate the reasons you understand it so well. As someone who spent WAYYYYYYY too long focusing on my career at the expense of everything else. All I'd say there is sod what it's done to your career, the shits would replace you in 3 days if you keeled over. Focus on being as well as you can be as often as you can be. Everything else in the grand scheme of things is just white noise. People used to ask BC how he was doing and then look at him as if he was daft when he answered "i'm surviving". Survive. Good things can't happen unless you do that. |
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Post by britty on Jul 3, 2019 20:27:25 GMT
Aint a clue looks to me like football is his last consideration,i was hoping Northampton would take him, you only get out what you put in . Football is a passionate game, played by the few who have the talent to reach professional status,some have more talent than others,Sordell was one of these he offered so much,but gave so little.this will be his 3rd season for Burton and he says he his depressed.and so are a lot of Coventry=Burton=Northampton fans. Carry on writing, leave football to the ones who appreciate how lucky they are and relish every minute,After a lot of movement Burton Albion trusted him with a 3 year contract,as a fan i believe he has betrayed that trust. Imagine Royston had wrote the disgraceful post above, all he gets is "bit harsh Trev" it wouldn't be hard to do. The vultures would certainly be circling. Hypocrites. Cant really disagree with you bob. It is one of the worse things i have read on this forum. Betrayed the Trust of fans.... do me a favour. Is there any difference between physical health issues and mental health issues? someone cant perform to his best because of his mental illness and he has "betrayed the trust of the fans". Pathetic. Did Temps betray you last season Trev for his physical illness?? What about Boyce the season before? Thankfully people like Sordell and Otep (and many more) have the courage to talk openly about their illnesses. |
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Post by Norah on Jul 4, 2019 13:03:58 GMT
Admin...
Back to the subject, rather than personal comments please.
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Post by 11railwaycuttings on Jul 4, 2019 16:10:10 GMT
mindset is when people have a view that runs parallel with others.earwigg==peacockbrewer=royston,to name a few ,For me to give my opinion to Sordell would be a pleasure if he asked for it. hope he would buy the drinks. But all respects to Sordell At 28 in the prime of his career 20 appearances in 2018/19, 9 goals in 73 appearances since 2017 as a striker, he was then loaned out to Northampton town where he made just 8 appearances,Having been asked about his future,he stated he had no idea what will happen. with respect he will be aware he is at a crossroads in his career. again another myth of me having friends on here,the only person i have met is broomo for a few minutes at a match, And from taking a player performances to health issue please start a column on health issues, not many took them into account when Buxton played many games with a bad back,many supporters booed him and wanted him gone. Here is a question do some fans believe sordell is not fit enough to play professional football. I do and i judge him solely, on performances on the pitch ,with all the other players. I leave all health issues to the professionals, An apology would look better! Shame on Norah for keeping this thread going! Trevor your not a doctor and anybody with a illness/depression,it’s got absolutely nothing to do with you. I hope someone from higher up at BAFC looks at this,reading the posts it’s not good if people defend you,show this to Mr Clough I’m sure he would not be happy with such comments. |
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Post by trevor1946 on Jul 5, 2019 10:08:01 GMT
Fair comment britty i am so disappointed that a talent like Sordell seemed to have lost his way,and was given a platform here to find stability with a 3 year contract and shows so much talent at times, His potential is still lost ,My comments were about football and highs and lows ,excitement and depressions that follows football,After a game some fans are happy some are sad, ,Not .mocking his depression no definitely not,my post was about the player on the field.and emotions that the game brings.,On previous threads i have brought depression in a thread,one being i feel so low i need a couple of days before i post.
after a loss.,And like many i need time to reflect after a game. The thread is were is sordell is he injured.
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